UNMASKED!
JON HAWORTH:
JERSEY’S SADDEST AND MOST INADEQUATE TROLL.
Read All About it!
Join me upon a hunt – a dangerous yet necessary digression into the sad hinterland of late-night, multi-IP, tragic loser, Billy No-mates trolling that has burgeoned in Jersey cyber-space; for on this quest we must enter a festering and pestilential swamp into which few decent people venture – but which has become the favoured habitat of a handful of inadequates who sit – one hand on the keyboard – whilst delivering to themselves a delusory sense of anonymous omnipotence – but in truth, possessing all the substance and appeal of some pixelated bog-creature from an obsolete computer game.
There are many strange beings to be found in this nocturnal midden. Such creatures have always been with us – but until they found the ideal habitat for their No-Life fantasy existences, one would have to seek them out in back-street pubs where they’d be found, alone, muttering to themselves and staring resentfully at women. And if not there – then they’d be tracked down to a backroom in a house – where they’d still be living with their mothers.
Whilst the curious adventurer can still find specimens in those more traditional habitats – these days, it’s into the void of the coruscating electron nothingness that we must go. Though the habitat itself is invisible – manifestations of it break into the real world – and can be spotted by the faintly lighted windows of tiny bed-sits or back-street flats that enshroud the 2.30 am apparitions – magicked into simulacrums of power and relevance by nine pints of Stella - and an invisible girl-friend.
But – troll-hunters – beware. To spot and catch your troll – you must use guile; for some, like vampires, can only operate at night. And others yet posses shape-shifting powers – and go abroad amongst us in daylight hours – cloaked in the appearance of a normal, functional human being. Great can be their craft at such disguises; but – being trolls – the camouflage they adopt for the real world can rarely withstand close probing and examination. For if you suspect a person you know is, in truth, a troll – you may quickly unmask them – should you be prepared to risk some close acquaintance. Draw them into speaking of their magnificence – converse with them about their friends in high-places – give them every opportunity to explain their brilliance – and especially ask them about the size of their computer.
Soon enough – the troll shall be uncloaked – and revealed in all it’s revolting, twisted, resentful isolation.
And in the flood-tide of flickering binary non-existence occupied by Jersey’s tribe of trolls – there sits one – more gross and poisonous than his fellows – the spiritual tribal leader of the island’s lonely, fantasising inadequates -
“Jason the Maverick” -
‘JTM’.
‘Jason Roberts’
‘Debumblebee’
‘Mean Dean’
‘Kate’
‘Mean Bean’
And a vast load of other avatars – too tedious for me to type.
Step forward – you sad, inadequate - formerly anonymous - clown –
JON HOWARTH.
That’s Jon Howarth - of Flat 1 – behind W.H. Smiths.
Jon Howarth who works – so he claims – for -
Baker Tilly Channel Islands –
“A leading chartered accountancy practice based in St Helier, Jersey.”
Trolls occupationally say things which are simply not true – but let us assume that he does work for this organisation.
Do his employers – I wonder – know that he engages in such activities as multi-IP trolling?
Of establishing fake Facebook identities – such as ‘Jason Roberts’ – which he then uses to lure people into giving him their electronic contact details.
That he uses his troll nerd-powers to track-down private IP addresses – and then threatens to expose other commenters and bloggers to their employers – if they’ve dared to express non-oligarchy opinions?
Do, I wonder, his employers recognise this for the form of blackmail and menace that it is?
Many of us real people use the realm of cyber-space. Some, like me, do so openly, rather than using a fake identity. Many others – for understandable reasons – keep their identities secret.
But what distinguishes Jon the Troll – like others of his kind – is that they spend their bitter, lonely nighthours trolling and flaming and defaming and wrecking forums - all the while doing so anonymously – and anonymously under 23 different avatars.
So – for all the lies, hatred, spin, vitriol, smears, blackmails, crazed obsessions, threats, defamations, obnoxiousness, intimidation, thuggery and manipulation he has inflicted upon dozens and dozens of other people – today The Quite Vile Blog has bravely tracked down this troll – across the electronic ether - to his rancid cave.
Where we can now observe him.
Contemplate his serious gambling habit.
Consider his weekend paralytic drunkenness.
Listen to his boasts of being real good friends with Phil Ozouf.
Reflect upon his unsurprising state of singleness – given his propensity to make drunken death-threats to those poor women who have the misfortune to encounter him, and then rapidly reject him.
Do – I wonder – the Police know of such conduct?
Oh well – they do now.
Just as, no doubt, do his employers.
Though trolls are not an endangered species – I don’t believe in harming dumb animals. But these strange creatures can be dangerous to people - in all kinds of ways.
So, occasionally – we must answer the call of duty; prepare ourselves for the hunt – and expose the trolls to the light. It can be difficult; it can be dangerous – but those of us who are Knights of the Jersey Chapter of Troll-Hunters shall always be ready to drive away such menaces whenever they emerge from their isolated swamps and intrude into the real world.
Eternal vigilance, my friends – and with a little patience and deduction – trolls can be hunted down and exposed.
Now that the troll JTM – or Jon Howarth – has been exposed, perhaps readers would like to finish off the job by sharing with us the rest of his known avatars?
And any other useful information?
And in the mean time – let us give some thought to the next troublesome troll.
The light shall always win.
Stuart.
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1 – 200 of 282 Newer› Newest»Stuart,
I have to tell you that this sort of person has been severely traumatised. Horrid world?
Irelands saddest day
Oo-er Stuart - that's a bit strong!
I hope you can back up all the death threats, gambling etc accusations
If its the same Jon he has a brother Peter who was a copper then a civilian computer whizz for the SOJP who was sacked.
Stuart
I think the Maverick tried to rumble me! I have some stuff from this scilly person, he clearly thought I would use my proper email address Num Nuts! He give me an address as Flat 1 Elizabeth ST ST Saviour? He was acting under the name of Jacques Chartier? I have some paper work from him which you may find amusing! I take it this is the seme person?
"“JASON THE MAVERICK”"
This sort of person has also severely traumatised many others
Peter (brother of Jon) has a similar but different spelling. May not be the same person.
Eh, Dam Buster? Jacques Chartier is a real person - used to be a postie until his back got damaged. I wouldn't say he fits what we know about JTM at all!
"“JASON THE MAVERICK”"
This sort of person has also severely traumatised many others
Hence, we must stop it all. Surely?
Not me but if you have some paper work regarding me please get in touch.
JASON ROBERTS or JASON THE MAVERICK
Thank you Stuart ! I am one of those traumatised persons that has been severly threatened and I still have my evidence ! (as do the police) , I chanced them helping and they did.I had threats about my own job from him , as well as threats to my collegues and my own life.But he also claimed the government were helping him and would ruin my life forever.Thats why I went to the police !To those of you that think he is a normal guy , please think again.
I am too afraid to say who I am just incase "they" do come to get me.If I was a member of his family I would be ashamed to be related to him !
ANON
ANON
Stuart,
is there any chance you could put aside the dungeons and dragons lingo for a second and, in plain English, tell us what this guy has done to warrant his being outed?
This is NOT accurate and Stuart I would like you to call me. I have sent you my number on your e-mail.
J S Haworth
Dam Buster.
Jacques is geniune and not the same person as JTM.
I'm not so sure whether what you've done here was either necessary or clever.
I agree with something’s that you have to say and understand that an orthodox approach doesn't always yield the best results.
Unfortunately I think you've really stooped very low here. Regardless of what this man has said, I don't think that you have the right to name him and to give his address is unforgiveable.
You should remove it forthwith.
Posts like these will do you know favours amongst intelligent thinkers and as you well know is only likely to inflict (probably physical) harm on others.
It's all well talking like a pacifist; you have clearly failed to act like one. You are not stupid and I’m sure you are aware of what results may come from your actions.
Jacques Chartier is a real person so i doubt you are right there Dam Buster.
Unless JTM has used his name or Jacques is JTM ooh err conspiracy perhaps!!
Either way if Jacques is Jacques and not what you think then i think you should not be publishing his address Dam B or Sturatconsidering his posts that have supported you in recent times.
If this person is as unstable as you try to put forward, then will you be taking personal responsibility should something now happen to him?
Why also name his family if he has posted on his own and he is as you say a "billy no mates"? Is this not a form of cyber bullying on your part?
Shame on you Stuart, you have sunk lower than I could ever imagine.
You've done it now. You've dropped the big one. The nuke!!
Oh boy, there's gonna be fallout!!
I reckon the rest of PJ all work in the same office (Baker Tilly too?) and use the forum to pass the time of day with in-jokes etc.
Does/did his buddy Adrian W work there too perhaps? :-)
Isn't karma a wonderful thing?
DEBUMBLEBEE- Who appears to have spent all his working days, nights, weekends, in fact his whole life on PJ.
Also boasting about consulting with all his work colleagues about Stuart Syvret and reading the JEP and passing it around the office all during his working hours.
Hope his bosses know what they have been paying him for.
He appears to have disappeared off the radar over the last couple of days?? (Thank God)
Stuart,
Where are these 65 to 70 childrens teeth now, and do you have the power as a Senator(or collectively with other politicians) to lawfully get these teeth tested?
As for the childs skull part coming back as a different weight and form, what has Julie Roberts have to say about this, can she be contacted?
Another internet based tactic these swamp like creatures use as a means to 'get at' people who speak out against wrong doing is to use a third party.
Take for instance what happened to me: the slimy monsters who I have been exposing on blogs used another swamp thing who happened to be a internet forum administrator to send to my personal email address some rather disgusting and malicious lies they had posted about me on a internet community forum. I still have them.
A few more aliases for you:-
Tory Boy
The Next Chief Minister
Fryer Tucker
A rabid establishment supporter who would get barred from PJ anyone who dared to have different opinions to him on his beloved establishment. He uses PJ as his own personal vehicle to peddle his inane rubbish to others. He actively encourages censorship of anyone who gives him a hard time.
My honest opinion is that he couldn't argue his way out of a paper bag. A very feeble debator, I did however find it fun to crank him up like a clock work toy, very amusing.
PJ will probably die a death when his multi-aliases get fed up posting the same rubbish all the time, or the real contributors all get banned when they start to take the p!ss more and more out of him. I would suggest the later for a bit of fun!
This is absolute rubbish, I know the guy.
mad foetus surely?
To anon,
Don't be scared of jtm he is a sad little no body, who has had multiple jobs and couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag.
"Unfortunately I think you've really stooped very low here."
Really? How low?
As low as the people who covered up institutional child abuse?
As low as the people who used children in a vile and cruel Way?
That low?
Why are people defending him? He threatens others all the time, now perhaps he knows what it feels like to be exposed.
If he was so sure of his oligarchy so called friends supporting him why does he need so many alias's?
Idiot he deserves whatever comes his way!
This blog has today proved how vile it really is. Shame on you Stuart, real shame, and the people on here attacking this guy should be equally ashamed of themselves.
Dear Stuart
There's a hilarious thread over on PJ where some contributers are all in a lather over your latest posting, they are the usual suspects who over the past few weeks and months have shown themselves to be JTM clones if not alias's namely Sparticus and some funny arrangement of letters (who I strongly suspect is Jon Haworth) mpwpj, still despite the virus that infects Pj you have a few antibodies fighting your corner.
Ha Ha what a laugh!!!!
This Blog is stooping to new lows. It's turning to the dark side.
Unfortunately I think you've really stooped very low here.
Well, that's rich when we are talking about someone who continuously does nothing but post vitreole and pure hatred, not only about Stuart, but starts a thread titled 'Should we destroy Montfort Tadier'.
Not the nicest of people methinks, and now getting a taste of his own medicine.
However, off tangent, let us hope and pray that the Jersey Child Abuse scandal does not have the same outcome as the Irish scandal. What a legacy the Catholic Church have left there. The victims there are very upset and angry, and quite understandably so. No one brought to account.
This must not set any precendents here. Justice must be seen to be done for all victims in Jersey.
He is the reason that Planet Jersey is a joke now. Whatever people think that website did provide a counterwieght to this site. But JTM etc ruined that site with his behaviour.
The nearest JTM gets to Ozouf is probably when he walks past WHsmith on the way to the states.
To Jon - and his mutli-avatar onanistic self-support movement.
Look - I allready have all your phone numbers - so consider youself fortunate I didn't post them.
And if, by some remote chance, any of those comments in support of you are from real people - all we can say is those who live by sword must expect to die by the sword.
Jon - the quantity of threatening, obnoxious pro-active blackmail you have engauged in over the years - has simply come back to you.
Call it Karma.
Stuart
Well done Stuart it is well overdue, this parasite had threatened countless people, men and woman alike. Well JTM what are you going to do now? You have made your bed now it’s time to lay in it.
JTM = Lower than a snakes ass hole.
"the people on here attacking this guy should be equally ashamed of themselves."
We're not though.
Any comments on the JDA two today and the comment that nobody is above the law and everybody will be treated equally.
Did I not hear that not everybody was charged with this offence, only those that belong to the JDA. Seems some are more equal than others.
And am I alone in thinking that the law the controls applications for a postal ballet and not the ballet itself is bizare!
For the record, I crossed swords with JTM back on the WhyJersey and WhyGuernsey forums, it was all a game to me and I was expecting it to remain so. But I argued too much with him and he found out who I was quite easily from my IP address (my fault I suppose!).
I decided to beat a strategic retreat and leave him alone, hoping that he'd forget about me. To his credit I've not had any hassle from him.
I know of someone else who fell into the same trap of not being anonymous enough, but he also took the same approach of leaving things well alone and has had no trouble since.
I don't know what else he's been up to, and didn't know the name until today, but it's all in the past as far as I'm concerned.
While I'm writing, Best Wishes to all former members of WJ/WG
*aj*
Thanks Stuart for letting me have my say.
Looking through local forums this has been posted on them all on PJ there is various people "or should i say one person with many logins" slating you Stuart for posting this clowns real Name. I can feel his pain. Ok how many takeaways can i send to his house this week?
Oh me thinks he is still posting and getting just a little bit "ratty-" oops read back on the forum he trips himself up from time to time.
Very atmospheric! And the reason why I gave up on Planet Jersey, because of the Tweedlee behaviour of JTM contradicting everyone, rather than disussing matters seriously. "That's not an argument, that's just contradiction" (Monty Python sketch)
The Jon Haworth I know has two brothers Peter and Neil who were founder members of the 1980's band Legend. I first met Jon when he was 18 at the Vic in the valley. He was a loner that got pissed ever night and would often get leery. On more than one occasion he ended up getting punched. 10 years ago a friend mentioned that she had a neighbour from hell that had threatened her and her flatmate. Yes it was Jon Haworth. What goes round come round.
Staurt,
I cannot help feeling sorry for this Jason troll and implore you to show some mercy! He sounds a lonely delusional sad little person who needs understanding and compassion not condemnation and mockery.
Also he most urgently needs to be sent on a life-changing holiday paid for by Jersey taxpayers.
I know jtm and mad foetus. They are not the same person.Both attended the same school in the 80's but their lives have turned out very differently. The mad one's got a great job he hates and a wife who earns a seven figure salary. Jtm has very little. We should pity him.
If I have got it wrong re Jacques Chartier then a apologise unreservedly. I suspect most people that I dont know until otherwise informed.
I really hope that this site does not go the way of PJ, OK so you have outed JTM now please put it to bed and get back to what you do best on this site ,,,,,,,raising the inadequacies of our political elite!
To start the ball rolling I give you the line .................NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW, which must be the most hilarious remark coming from a Jesey Court, as anybody who lives here knows........in Jersey MANY ARE ABOVE THE LAW!
Can someone summarise in not more than 200 words all that JTM is accused of without an expresion of opinion on his actions. Facts only please. I think summarising it in this way would put an end to all this pointless debate and allow us all to concentrate on the real issues of corruption, greed and child abuse.
JRCbean
Don’t feel sorry for the Troll, give thoughtfor those lives hemade a misery.
Harper Powell Taddier & all the brave abused for statrers
May I request that everyone who is concerned in stamping out institutional child abuse could read the last two posts of my blog, as I think I have posted something very important there today. Thanks.
“Dandarea” - the new Latin name for Jersey! LOL
Actually - if you want to get the name of that particular property-development company correct - it's DandIRA.
Whoops.
There go my knee-caps.
Stuart
Your kneecaps? I think there's going to be a queue for that at this rate! Jonathon, that nurse, the Jersey Mafia, the Masons etc etc
LOL
This blog has today proved how vile it really is. Shame on you Stuart, real shame, and the people on here attacking this guy should be equally ashamed of themselves.Before posting silly comments like this you needed to read some of the troll posts.
Stuart,
There are now 13 signatures on your Early Day Motion.
They are creeping up.
All of these post supporting JTM - must in reality be Jtm himself! Who other than an insane person, would support such low life?
Somebody has been buzzy. DBs PJ post count is now only 49.
I must be missing something - I read this blog quite regularly, but don't really know what this guy has actually done. Could someone provide some links to threads where he has trolled, etc, so that those of us who don't really visit the other forums might know what has caused Stuart to do this?!
As an aside - I'd be interested to know how you managed to find this chap's details from his IP address, or was it some sleuthing of his online identity/login IDs?
My own MP has not yet signed Stuart's EDM, and I did ask him very nicely to do so.
He'd better get cracking if he wants my vote in the forthcoming elections.
>> Somebody has been buzzy. DBs PJ post count is now only 49.
So Adrian has been mopping up all of Jonathon's dodgy PJ comments? Why would that be happening if we didn't have the right name? LMAO
Stuart, you don't strike me as an IT boff. How did you find his name?
I couldn't possibly reveal the secrets of the Order of Knights of the Troll-Hunters.
Such are the powers of the secrets - my fellow members of the Jersey Chapter would have to ceremonially throw me from the summit Le Pinnacle if I revealed them.
Stuart
"Stuart,
There are now 13 signatures on your Early Day Motion.
They are creeping up."
Well done to my local MP Frank Dobson for signing the EDM. I have emailed Frank to thank him.
But Stuart, the rumour which is going around like wildfire is that it was an employee at Deutsche Bank.
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Perhaps Stuart Syvret should remember these important aphorisms:
1. "So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone." (John, 8:7)
2. "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." (Matthew 26:52)
In other words: be careful, Senator. This might come back and bite you in the bum!
Stick to the main issues and go for the BIG guys.
If it is Adrian Walsh (Gattaca) deleting the bee's posts on pj, he's just as guilty after all he did allow jtm to threaten people on another forum and use his name.
What do we know about a certain 66 year old Jersey man who mysteriously fell (or was he defenstrated?) early yesterday morning?
He did seem to have a lot of handsome young male friends.
Look -
I'm not religious.
I post openly - and do not troll.
Jon the Troll has seriously harassed other internet uses for several years - using multiple anonymous IP addresses and identities.
He, therefore, is merely getting a long over-due taste of his own medicine.
You think this post will "bite me on the bum"?
You know, do I really look like the kind of guy who gives a monkey's?
I've exposed child torturers, child batterers, child rapists, concealers, bent cops and mass-murderers on this blog.
And I've had my home turned over by Wierdcop, Gradwell and Minty's storm-troopers at the behest of Barking-Bill.
And been locked-up for 7 hours.
If Jon the Troll imagines there's a single, damn thing he can do that I give a sod about - let him bring it on.
I'm looking forward to the real exciting stuff - like getting charged and prosecuted for alleged Data Protection Law breaches.
There is not the remotest possibility of any anti-oligarchy person being found not-guilty by Jersey's politicised judiciary - or even handed down a credible sentence - as was demonstrated against the JDA 2 yesterday.
Hell - I really, really hope I just get Jail - or a sodding great fine - which I shall refuse to pay - and take the prison sentence instead.
I've already asked Wierdcop to have a word with the beaks to make sure it's more than three months inside.
That way I get automatically thrown out of the States.
What a bloody splendid means of escaping the cess-pit!
And - there's the added advantage that a couple of years in La Moye nick will mean I have to spend far less time with crooks and liars than my present occupation requires!
You know - this is all turning out quite marvelously - I couldn't have planed it better.
Stuart
"I couldn't have planed it better."
Planed it? Once a carpenter, always a carpenter!
"I couldn't have planed it better."
Hi Stuart,
Was that a Jersey State sponsored spelling error or were you talking carpentry?
Err - both.
I'm going to do it, you know? That post about cabinet making.
Stuart
So the Charter Party isn't going to happen then?
Hi Stuart
I am glad that you published the comment from Dam Buster regarding me and my address. It's a sad time when someone genuine offers help only to have it thrown back with malicious tittle tattle. The only "paper work" Dam Buster has is a copy of the article regarding your arrest that was in the JEP. I emailed this article to him. I hope this blog can move on with the real issues affecting this island.
Stuart, have you given up?
Your latest words sound desperate. Are you seriously going to give up politics and head back into carpentry full time?
Have you briefed the subject of many hate filled posts -Lenny Harper?
I think it is unfair to pick on Adrian Walsh because of what this dweeb did.
Stuart. Did you know that Jesus was a carpenter?
Let yourself be guided by the hand or the Lord. He will show you the light during these dark times.
It is not unfair to blame Adrian Walsh. Everyone knows they are in it together!
It now appears that whole threads are missing from PJ!
Great to see such in depth reporting in the jep tonight, no stone was left unturned to publicise the JDA2's crime of enabling the housebound to vote.
Well done again guys.
You must be very proud of yourselves.
No one thought it was possible but you've managed to move even further up our chief ministers colon.
"Stuart. Did you know that Jesus was a carpenter?
Let yourself be guided by the hand or the Lord. He will show you the light during these dark times"
I have no doubt that the remark above is well meant but it's a bit of a tenuous link isn't it?
He was also a Capricorn but no one keeps banging on about that.
I think the Bee left a couple of weeks ago doh !
Yeah - but I bet Jesus never had Lie Neilson planes, Japanese waterstones and Ryoba saws?
But - of course he wouldn't have needed them.
Maybe I should take up Christianity - and ask Him in prayer how to get secret, mitred dovetails right?
Stuart
I have it on extremely good authority the person you have named is taking a fall for Ozouf.
Ozouf is the real and original JTM who is working to a well thought out strategy with a handpicked group of media savvy and influential upstanding pillars of jersey society
Just a gentle reminder, folks.
I'm giving the whole Freemasons thread a rest for a few weeks.
Thanks
Stuart
Hilarious entry.
I sparred with Mystic Maverick (as I used to call him) from the WhyJsy days.
The guy (if it's him) outed me on Why Gsy so glad he is getting a taste of his own medcine. The difference being is that I dont say anything on a forum that I wouldn't say to someones face.
He was not even that great a troller as he repeated or ignored constantly and bored me.
I have some posts/PMs etc of his saved somehwere on my PC. I knew things would get taken down off forums.
I moved on from this stuff ages ago, it was just a laugh when I was bored.
Obviously not to Mystic.
We all knew he was a sad man back in the day and now we know for sure.
As for the lets nots not tar Adrian Walsh with the same brush....I am afraid he let this all go on on PJ.
And hi AJ, long time no speak.
Bateman
Indeed some of the threads are being removed from Planet Jersey. Possibly in the hope that no-one has chosen to file or copy the disgraceful comments by the Bee or whatever he choses to call himself.
I firmly believe that Adrian no longer owns the blog, I think he sold out to JTM or the like. It always surprises me that they were so thick to actually believe that business's on the Island would wish to take up their advertising offer. What Retailer or Business would want their name associated with the Forum. A lot of ordinary posters chose not to comment on the forum after being undermined, rediculed etc., by this sad individual. Perhaps lessons have been learnt. Sadly it looks like he continues to post with his latest avatar, he really does believe people are so stupid that they cannot see through the numerous alias names he gives himself. Perhaps those who continue to post in the hope he will see the error of his ways should give it wide berth for a while - if only to show that his need to continually undermine the ordinary people of Jersey is not acceptable.
The man is a fool, or very very sick, he needs help. Perhaps when he actually loses his job over his own stupidity he will see the light. I very much doubt it.
To a friend Ozouf is not JTM you only have to read what JTM used to say about Ozouf to know that.
ANON friends of the threatened.
The only reason JTM has been identified is because of his own doings.The person that reported him to police was made to by friends due to the nature of the death threats and warnings that were being received.He was warned to stop and that everything was being kept but no , he continued , even why the police were interviewing this person.They did what anyone would do in same situation. They have nothing to do with politics at all and looking at some of the forums we are not surprised.This person did have good friends though , and you know Jersey is too small , friends talk to friends , so it is no wonder it has all come out.
We are just surprised that it has never come out sooner ! Or were his previous victims too afraid to report him or say anything ????
We now believe that to be the case.
The person that did go to police is now frightened , having received other threats from his supposed friends , shame on them !
What has Jersey come to ? Politics is ruining the innocent victims of someone that can't handle being rejected !
JTM will come back we are sure in another form .
Some of his victims have nothing to do with politics , just remember that.They are still being threatened the same way though.
This will continue happening unless people do put a stop to it.
UK Police would like the same powers as Jersey!!! Says the Pravda (Establishment Vile Rag).
Utter codswallop
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Anonymous said...
I think the Bee left a couple of weeks ago doh !
Doh! I don't think so he was slagging off Deputy Tadier a 2/3 days ago, Maybe you should check your facts.
Jacques Chartier
If you see my previous post I unreservedly apologised to you. I hope that we our both man enough to except that I made a mistake, not knowning where WH Smiths is compared to your address! I agree with you that things should move on and focus on the real issues. I have learned my lesson not to dabble in areas that I am not familiar with!
The Tadier news 10 days ago wasn't it? I thought the real media punched him harder.
UK police forces seek Jersey search powers
The "Jersy Evening Post" reports on a proposal to abolish senator's seats in the States and to divide the island into six "super-constituencies".
Is this a move designed to neutralise the campaigns of a certain Jersey politician whose initials are "SS"?
Never! After all, Jersey is a democracy.
Isn't it?
He is back as Corkie-1
Although many do not think it to be so, the way that one writes is a very good indicator of their socio-economic group,or, in layman's terms, what class they belong to. This is a general statement and does not apply to everyone of course, but what is fairly ironic is that an anonymous post spoke about:
Posts like these will do you know favours amongst intelligent thinkers
Oh dear, this isn't a "life-enriching" spelling mistake here, we're talking about grammar. I sincerely hope that these people do not speak so broadly about academics, since I doubt they are one.
On another note - post away Stuart, post away!
The only things that can be deemed truly libelous (variant spelling chaps) are comments which cannot be proved.
All the best,
Ryan M
Front page news of the vile rag: Southern and Pitman should "Resign". Local TV reports: Southern and Pitman are criminals.
Shame on local, so called Journalism.
Why dont you get the real stories, and give the real picture?!
So the numpty has been unmasked at last. It would be good to see him post something on this blog if he's up to it. I wonder if he will be so outspoken now his cover is blown.
Just Empty Propanda why waste your money on rubbish? Boycott any business that props up the establishment. Only with the use of economic sanctions will these people learn.
May I suggest everyone who reads this blog actively campaign to get all those they know to keep the rag into touch? Only by keeping the pressure on will change be effected.
I left out in my previous comment that your socio-economic group also defines the level of your education.
I understand that my previous post could have meant that the upper echelons of society are more educated. I do not believe this is the case, as the "lower-echelons" are more likely to strive given the chance.
What I do believe in though, if you are going to criticise Stuart or his work, then post intelligent posts, or not many people will take you seriously.
Ryan M
JTM instantly recognised online. What a brand to have! Friends what friends? Where does this person work? I wonder what his employer thinks of his online antics?
Jon Haworth stand 4 Deputy and spout ur c+++ 4 easy money
I was expecting his first name to be Richard and his surname to be Head.
'Front page news of the vile rag: Southern and Pitman should "Resign". Local TV reports: Southern and Pitman are criminals.
Shame on local, so called Journalism.
Why dont you get the real stories, and give the real picture?!'
Moreso....why can't we comment on these stories in the Rag. Are they afraid of what public opinion really is on this matter??
What a pathetic 'news'paper. Better used as toilet paper and consigned down the drain. Truly up the Establishment's ar.e!
MARIO LUNDY
Oops! You have sure caused a stir on PJ Stuart well done! Even Gattaca aka Adrian is online there now. Spartacus seems to have the same venom as a certain other person doesn't he?
UK police forces seek Jersey search powers
According to the report in the J E P tonight, looks like Jersey is leading the way or should I say the world, in crime prevention.
Ryan M. Perhaps you could correct the grammar. I think you might find the typo relates to using word spell check.
I think you might also find that IQ relates to intelligence not spelling and grammar.
I guess you're an academic hiding behind exam passes with little analytical ability.
JTM is not corkie_1 just for the record !
Ryan, the blogger has missed a comma after 'these' - what is the big deal. Hardly a grammatical disaster.
You really come across as "up your own arse."
I've been forwarded an obnoxious comment sent to a person by Jon the Troll - submitted under another of his avatars - namely "Terry Le Swear".
Unfortunately - The Troll's comment is too obscene to publish on this site - but thanks for sending it anyway!
Looks like he's passed the 9 pints of Stella mark already!
Stuart
Ryan, what within the post was unintelligent?
As i pointed out before, use of grammar is learned - similar to academic qualifications.
There are, unfortunately, some people who think that academic qualifications relate directly to intelligence, normally the people more heavily weighted in one area than the other.
JTM is not corkie_1 just for the record !No of course he isn't Jon dear.
The thread entitled "Should we destroy Montfort Tadier?" started and contributed to by Debumblebee a.k.a. JTM has now disappeared from Planet Jersey. Why?
This JTM material is geting on my nerves, it is ruining this blog. Please get back to the old subjects that mean something.
Stuart, you have referred several times on your blog to Jared Diamond. You might be interested to learn that his academic rigour has been a catastrophe. Google "stinky journalism" to get the link.
With regards to JTM, well done. He and his clones are to blogginng as spam is to emailing.
Stuart.
This is worth a watch. http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2009/05/21/eric-boehlert-bloggers-on-the-bus/
Thank you Stuart for exposing this vile person who has caused much upset on and offline
Yes, it would appear Jared Diamond messed-up that particular article.
But it isn't at all clear that the Stinky Journalism piece itself is free from serious flaws, if you read the comments.
But even assuming Diamond got this one article wrong - the body of his work as a whole is internationaly recognised for its importance.
Stuart
With regard to Diamond, when a scholar's writing is exposed as a gross fabrication the whole body of their work becomes suspect. Sometimes these are one off incidents, but often an established pattern of deception emerges. The jury is out as regards Diamond.
It would be jolly interesting to hear a viewpoint on the subject from Adrian Walsh and Philip Ozouf .
Both suffer by association.
JDA comment on the sore loser Rod Bryans who is whingeing about the absurd GS/SP fines
jdacmb.blogspot.com/2009/05/justice-seen-to-be-done-choose-own.htmlI’m sure that JDA supporters are shocked at the harshness of the fines imposed on Geoff and Shona in their court case, and disgusted with the coverage the JEP gave to Rod (bad loser) Bryans enabling him to express extreme views, in addition to their unsympathetic editorial.
Their fines could not have been heavier if they had engaged in the bribery, fraud and interference with the ballot that some have inaccurately accused them of. Even if you take the view that as they broke the law and needed to be punished, these fines are outrageous for hard-working deputies who have no means other than their States Members’ pay. Moreover, any unbiased person who attended the hearing could not fail to be shocked by the evidence that was presented about the course of the debate that led to the introduction of this law. Many States members were of the opinion that helping someone to complete an application form constituted interference with the ballot, and others seemed to think that this law would bring them into line with the UK when in fact no such law exists in any other Commonwealth country. Even if this was not a deliberate device to nobble Shona and Geoff, it does seem that the IQs and comprehension skills of some States Members fall short of what one would wish.
Meanwhile, I’m sure that Shona and Geoff would like to thank all those who have sent messages of support at this difficult time.
Athena
Hello to Bateman and aj from whyjersey, long time no see!! I remember the arguing,, JTM was always slagging off the 'sour faced poles' and getting upset when he was pulled up about it!!! Guernsey Deputy Peter Roffey even called wj a 'cesspit of racism'!! I hope hes shamed off line for good
Both will now be tarnished with the bad smell that is JTM. Hopefully this will help the island to move forward in the future. It is such a mess now it is time for change.
I hope Ozouf will be removed at the next elections. Walsh has no hope of getting in now, JTM and his poorly run forum has seen to that.
As per JTM I would try to change your writing style if I were you. It is now so obvious from your first post under a new alias that it is you. May I congratulate you in getting a mention of Stuart's blog, you will now be known around the world and not just on a tuppeny forum.
Does you boss know what you get up to in working hours yet? Maybe when he finds out you might get the sack?
Hi Stuart
Thanks and i am sure i say that for hundreds of people this excuse for a man has annoyed over the past few years, now it's his turn to feel the wrath of the sword he lived by for so long.
He is now calling himself Painkiller over on the Channel Island Forum. Here is the link.
http://www.channelislandsforum.co.uk/island-chat/1301-jason-maverick-revealed.html
Why still call him JTM?
The name is HOWATH, JON HOWORTH
"Why still call him JTM?
The name is HOWATH, JON HOWORTH"
Please make your minds up: is this guy called Haworth, Howorth, Howard, or what?
Let's get back down to brass tacks - the real issues that bother Jersey.
Thanks for posting that link.
I've just read "Painkiller's" comments. It's an education checking scamsters like that out, seeing how they try to use psychological techniques and false names to try to influence other people.
Thanks for all the info - the stuff for publishing - and the confidential comments for my personal info.
Keep it coming - and don't forget, you can e-mail me in confidence at st.syvret@gmail.com.
So - we're beginning to uncloak the entire, festering tribe of inadequates.
Just as a taster - yes - we have Phil Ozouf - one of the Machiavellian schemers behind the oligarchy hi-jacking of cyberspace.
Adrian Walsh no longer appears "innocent".
Ozouf's mate Alex Ohlsson is a party to the Great Scheme - essentially, the troll take-over of cyberspace is a continuation and development of their "Elect Jersey 2005" propaganda exercise.
Phil Balderson is also involved.
As are several professional spin-doctoring operations.
Obvioulsy - Glenn Rankine cannot be included in that latter category - given the fact he's an amateurish buffoon.
But - as the loyal lap-dog of Phil Ozouf and Alan McLean - fellow schemers both - he plays his minor role.
We shouldn't be surprised that the oligarchy should mount such a brazen exercise in opinion management - given The inevitable decline of The Rag.
Like I said - keep it coming.
Stuart
Anonymous,
Or even HOWARTH?
Let's try and get this bit right A?
Make your mind up.
Is Jon Haworth the sad loser you painted or in the employ of somebody?
How is Philip Ozouf a party to Trolling?
Let's hear Adrian's version before condeming him.
"Why still call him JTM?
The name is HOWATH, JON HOWORTH"
Please make your minds up: is this guy called Haworth, Howorth, Howard, or what?
JON HAWORTH
JONATHON S HAWORTH
16.05.1970
OLD VICTORIAN 1981 TO 1986
Phil Balderson. No surprises that he is involved in the trolling. Certainly a “character,” we’ll leave it at that for now. He’s pretty open with his very anti SSS views. A capitalist through and through.
Is Phil Ozouf really involved in trolling?
Do you have any hard evidence?
If he is, it will give you a great opportunity to nail him to a wall.
Stuart
I really hope you do write a book.
This post was the funniest thing I've read in months.
I've actually met Jon on a couple of occasions, but couldn't claim to know him.
But from those couple of meetings, I have to say, your satirical description of him certainly chimes with my impression.
Rentier
This Jon Haworth must be extremely thick to start trolling again.
Corkie_1
Painkiller
latest rumour has it that your states speeches are written by your friendly UK MP's! They'll try anything to discredit you ~ ROFL
If anyone thinks any MP would have either the time or inclination to right speeches for me, they have no grasp of politics - and must be a bit thick.
I have never had a speech written for me in my life.
And even when making speeches, 95% of the time I extemporise and do not use notes.
Very rarely, if I think an occasion is of sufficient importance, I will actually write down a speech.
I don't do it very often - but when I do, I can assure you it's all my own work.
Especially the spelling mistakes.
Stuart
Pip Ozo's wikipedia page says he was spewn forth on 25 March 1970 so he would have been in the same year as Jonathon at Vile College
I may bee a brit tick butt eye wood like two half a go at righting a speach four u sTeward me England tis getin bitter weak be weak Looke at ta fun the mart areses wood half?
JONATHON S HAWORTH, the Internet Troll, lurked on sites like Planet Jersey and seemed to delight in trying to be insulting and hurtful.
This was always done behind a fake name. Such as JTM, Jungle Director, Jason Roberts, Sarah, Dbumblebee and more.
The term “Internet troll” has become the signature for those that join a conversation simply to cause problems, generate angry responses, and sabotage the discussion or to ‘push the buttons’ of others for sad self amusement.
It’s a deep need for attention or some other psychological disorder that drives this behaviour.
As irritating as they can become, the worse thing that anyone can do with an Internet troll like Jon Haworth is to engage them in their game. If a troll gets a response to their inflammatory postings or comments, it just encourages them to continue.
If a troll attempts to engage others but is ignored, they generally move on to find easier targets to annoy. In most cases, the forum recognises the troll’s postings as irrelevant and that they don’t contribute to the conversation and simply continue the discussion which pushes the troll’s comments further down.
Many serial bullies are also serial attention-seekers. More than anything else they want attention. It doesn't matter what type of attention they get, positive or negative, as long as they can provoke someone into paying them attention.
It's like a 2-year-old child throwing a tantrum to get attention from a parent. The best way to treat bullies is to refuse to respond and to refuse to engage them - which they really hate. In other words, do not reply to their postings, and on forums carry on posting without reference to their postings as if they didn't exist.
TREAT NOBODIES LIKE JONATHON S HAWORTH AS NOBODIES!
Hi Stuart,
I note the signatories to the EDM is indeed rising - "who says the UK Government is not interested in what's going on in Jersey"
In a climate when all the MPS in the UK have a lot to worry about it is indeed heartening that some do listen to their constituents and act.
Onwards and Upwards
Isobel
May I clarify a few points which were brought up by the post:
Ryan M. Perhaps you could correct the grammar. I think you might find the typo relates to using word spell check.
I think you might also find that IQ relates to intelligence not spelling and grammar.
I guess you're an academic hiding behind exam passes with little analytical ability.
You quite rightly assert that exam passes do not naturally make you an academic, and I believe that my post was misconstrued. I simply wanted to say that the way that you write reflects upon how we perceive the individual to be intelligent - whether we like it or not.
If we compared Stuart's vocabulary with a person who used words like "innit" and "bruvver" I am sure even yourself would make judgements upon which one was more intelligent.
I am still unaware what you mean by mentioning " perhaps you could correct the grammar" of course I could, it was "no".
As to mentioning that "I am an academic hiding behind exam passes with little analytical ability" - embarrassingly enough, you are quite far from the truth.Training to become a physical scientist (physics/chemistry) requires a huge amount of analytical ability, as well as imagination. I am unsure as to your line of work,but I am unaware of any position which requires a greater skill of analysis.
I suggest on a purely academic point of view that you research socio-linguistics if you would like to get a better grounding in the subject. Spelling and grammar do not always count towards a person's intellect, but they will always be judged for the way that they speak.
I wouldn't judge my own academic ability without first meeting me, for that was not what I did with my post. All I had said was that if critics of Stuart wanted to make a valid point, more people would take them seriously if they wrote intelligently.
Any more points you would like me to clarify?
Ryan M
As for another post saying that "the blogger has only missed a comma big deal" whoops, my post seemed to have gone way over your head. I would rather be "up my own arse" as you so eloquently put it, rather than be put in your embarrasing situation. Didn't you read it before you sent your post?
Good work Wolfie Syvret. Power to the people. Just stay calm the oligarchy are running out of options.
Copied from you know where.
Clue it is where JTM resides.
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Please, boys and girls.
While Stuart Syvret may allow all types of slander and rumor mongering to be allowed on his blog, planet jersey does not.
NO naming of individuals unless they are a politician or have been reported in a "NEWSWORTHY" publication (this does not include ANY Blog anywhere). This is part of your T&C's that you signed up to when you became members.
While I am not going to take sides in any arguments, I am going to state that this post gives full permission to the moderators to put an immediate ban on anyone who breaks the Terms and Conditions set out in your membership agreement.
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While I have your attention, also please try to cut down on your profanities. Its starting to sound like a states sitting."
Tut tut Stuart they don't like it up 'em do they?
Write left speeches, surely.
Please stand up, for years you have blatantly noised people up with your one sided views, not even willing to see the other persons view or for that matter give a dam what they thought or said.
The time has come for you to answer or maybe not answer as I can't see you ever having the bottle to do that. Let’s just say the time has come for all the other people you have tried so hard to discredit and even in some cases tried to harm their way of life. For this JON HAWORTH is your time to be laughed at and enjoy it we all will.
From everyone at The Channel Island Forum, Is This Jersey, Why Jersey and countless blogs you have applied your vile to, we feel your pain Jon just not a lot .
Now feck off back to the stone you crawled out from
What a plonker.
UK Health Minister says that CI health chiefs knew about the UK's intention to scrap the reciprocal health agreement for at least two years before making it public.
Mike Pollard Chief Executive of Health in Jersey, remains adamant that he has only known this for a year, at the most. Who do you believe?
Just how much support does Rob Bryans have in demanding the resignation from the States of Geoff Southern and Rhona Pitman?
More to the point, are Southern and Pitman disqualified from continued membership of the Jersey parliament by virtue of their convictions?
H.A.
Jerusalem
I don't mean to intrude - but isn't the row over grammar and spelling getting just a little bit OTT?
I mean - who gives a monkey's?
Come on guys(?) - you're both smart; surely there are more constructive contributions you can make?
Stuart
Health Agreement?
Who do I belive?
Err - just give me a while to think about that one.
Stuart
BILL OGLEY MARIO LUNDY TOM MCKEON AND MIKE POLLARD
No - the JDA 2 are not disqualified from being States members.
Rod Bryans? Oh dear.
What can one say?
Not the sharpest chisel in the roll.
When he ran for election at the end of 2008, he stated in his election material that no one could have foreseen the economic crises which had, and continues, to grip the world.
But - in early 2007, I gave the first - and only - speech I've ever been invited to give to the Jersey Chamber of Commerce.
And in that speech I spoke of economic meltdown, the inescapable limits to growth, the fact that the world's economy, and Jersey's even more so, was nothing more than a giant Ponzi scheme, environmental collapse, and the futility of Jersey merely pursuing 'more of the same' policies.
And I made these points not through any genius insight of my own - but simply because I take the trouble to read books, journals and think about things.
I was simply repeating what a lot of other commenters had been saying - some for a very long time.
To my great surprise, the speech was received as interesting and thought provoking; many Chamber members came and spoke to me afterwards.
In fact - there was only one, solitary, dismissive and unthinking attack made against what I said.
Can we guess who it was yet?
Yep. Rod Bryans.
But you can tell he's really thick - because having made such an unwise and crass rejection of an intellectually robust speech - two years later - he then has the nerve to go into an election campaign - claiming no one foresaw the economic crises.
Err - Rod, a lot of people did, actually. And at that Chamber of Commerce meeting - you were the only person who dismissed such concerns.
Thank God he didn't get elected.
Stuart
The catholic church in Jersey is offering sympathy and help to any residents living in Jersey who were victims of child abuse at former Irish institutions.
What about the victims closer to home , no disrespect to any abuse survivor
Why have the local church not offered this sympathy, empathy what ever you want to call it before
There masters wont allow them to, because they are just alleged victims.
They make you want to vomit.
The UK MP signatories below at least recognise this dangerous & lawless act that you would only expect in a dictatorship.
EDM 1480
Hemming, John
Mitchell, Austin
Bottomley, Peter
McDonnell, John
Cryer, Ann
Sanders, Adrian
Godsiff, Roger
Stunell, Andrew
Hancock, Mike
Corbyn, Jeremy
Dobson, Frank
Leech, John
Riordan, Linda
Drew, David
Davies, Dai
EDM 1480 ARREST OF SENATOR STUART SYVRET 13.05.2009
Hemming, John
That this House deplores the arrest and detention of Senator Stuart Syvret by the Jersey Police Force for alleged infractions of data protection laws; notes that the Senator was in receipt of information disclosed in the public interest, with which he is attempting to hold the Jersey government to account for a variety of profoundly serious child protection and clinical governance failures; condemns the manner of the Senator's arrest and the subsequent searching of his home by the police without a search warrant; further condemns the fact that substantial quantities of his constituents' private data were taken and copied by the Jersey police; considers this an intimidatory and anti-democratic action which the Senator is virtually powerless to challenge given the politicisation of the Jersey judiciary and the propensity of the Jersey legislature to oppress minority members; and calls on the Secretary of State for Justice to fulfil his duties by exercising his constitutional powers to intervene and ensure good governance and the proper administration of justice in Jersey though requiring a separation of powers and the imposition of effective checks and balances in order that survivors of child abuse, and other victims of malfeasance gain the proper protection of justice; and considers that through such actions the UK will return to compliance with its obligations under the European Convention on Human Rights, obligations which are breached by tolerating the situation in Jersey.
Pour les Contres.
Stuart
When essentially employed SoJ Chief Executives five year contracts run out, who has the power to extend these contracts? Can these extentions be disputed?
And should these extentions not be made public?
The catholic church in Jersey is offering sympathy
Hypocrites, I went to De La Salle when the Brothers were there.
These so called men of God used to use violence on the pupils. scum
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Your posts have been noted as possible trolling, and you are formally warned in a pm and on this forum that this sort of behaviour will not be accepted and will result in a ban.
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Anybody have a photo of J S Haworth?
Yet another name for the enemies list.
Dawn Primarolo.
Thankyou jep for pointing out her dislike of the channel islands in your leader today.
Why she has even tried to pretend that the dpt of health did not recieve fearless Franks letter.
(Does that mean the D of H also hates us?)
Wasn't it inspiring to read the e-mails sent by our CM's and health ministers?
These stupid, spoilt halfwits just could not grasp the concept that they might not get their own way for once in their pampered lives.
So they just kept repeating the same pathetic attempts at an argument while demanding that an MP should take time from her busy schedule, helping to run the national health service for almost 70 million people, to meet with whichever puffed up ego was writing the e mail at the time. Or as no nuts put it "to meet minister to minister" (or something like that, i'm not reading that article again, life is too short to dwell on the prose of Jim perchard)
I really dont get the point of the expose in the rag - so what if they new it was coming months ago it seems to me that we were lucky to get such a generous subsidy........... and as for the special relationship - that is with the Crown not the government of the day. Seems like our Ministers grovelling and cap doffing fell on deaf ears - Tough!
I see Gattaca has his discription of Jon down to a tee!
I wonder what the next chief minister thinks of JTM? Did he think he was a troll when he was at school with him?
Stuart,
Back in about November 2006 I was listening to BBC RJ Talk Back programme. Amazingly you were a guest with (I think) Roy Le H and perhaps it was Hamish MC presenting.
Am I correct in thinking I heard you say that you were in favour of the constables remaining in the states? If so, have you changed your mind since then? Having researched the subject, I'm not in favour but what are your views please? Sorry to change the subject but this latest plan by PPC concerns me. thanks.
The Worrier
Ryan M. You have missed the point entirely. "Know" was clearly a spelling mistake and the punctuation was not fantastic - it was written quickly and not checked (it's a blog, not a scientific journal).
However your post states "if you are going to criticise Stuart or his work, then post intelligent posts, or not many people will take you seriously."
As i pointed out previously, grammer and spelling are not related to intelligence,
they are learned. You have chosen to call my post unintelligent, on the basis of grammer and spelling
only - that, i find irritating, coming from a so called scientist.
By all means rip THE CONTENT of my post to pieces, however be sure to back up your arguements.
On top of this, to start talking about socio-economic class is cheeky, when you have absolutely no knowledge of that person.
Finally, if you step outside of your profession, i think you might find a lot of jobs that require serious amounts of analytical ability - have a chat with a QC.
Ogley's contract is up next year.
Is anyone going to ask questions as to why he destroyed vital minutes, (exposed). Can this man be trusted to be incharge of our Island any longer.
Ogley will have his quallies in two years time, anyone thought of that?
Who is "GATTA" ????
What is he??????
I realise he is one the Admin on PJ, however not too sure why he was suggesting you were trolling.
Can we stop arguing and pointlessly bickering over matters of grammar, spelling and syntax?
Let's stick to the substantive issues.
H.A.
Jerusalem
Stuart
The JEP in today's edition followed up on the Health Service Journal article. This site often criticises the paper for being a mouth piece of the establishment but give the paper its due, it provided islanders with an interesting insight into UK and Jersey relations.
It is a great shame that our senior politicans could not manage to negotiate a reciprocal health agreement with the UK.
The correspondence shows that the emphasis seemed to be the £3.9 million given by the UK taxpayer to the Island. An astute politician would surely have seen that the 30 year old arrangement was correct in principle for accessing health care but not appropriate in regards to the finances.
There seems to have been little, if any, contingency planning for the loss of £3.9 million to the health budget. The CEO has been publically adamant that his department had little notice. The Freedom of information releases shows that this is not the case.
This is the same CEO who came from a UK Trust 5 years ago. His contribution to that organisation was to lead it into financial melt down.
Is history repeating itself in Jersey, is anybody going to ask questions ?
"I really dont get the point of the expose in the rag - so what if they new it was coming..."
According to the DOH, Jersey was told 18 months before September 2008, which puts Stuart in charge at the time.
Now you know the point of the expose
I fully realise that 'les crapauds' have plenty of parliamentary problems of their own, but the apathy of at least one UK MP is worthy of note.
I lobbied my local Conservative Member of Parliament (I live in a south London constituency) last week, urging him to sign up to EDM 1480.
It would not have cost him more than a moment's effort, but even this was too much for him.
He could not even be bothered to acknowledge my email.
As this "honourable gentleman" regularly visits Jersey (he has been seen shopping in King Street), perhaps this message will jog his memory?
He may not be offering himself for re-election but he still owes a duty of responsibility to his constituents.
Stuart, can you give us any detail on this "mysterious" £600,000 being returned to investors?
Stuart thank you so much for giving the world Jon Haworth.
If Jon continues his harassment I will pass my evidence to the Police.
There is currently a review into Chief Officers expenses
Apparently the mandarians are falling over themselves to apologise for lack of judgement. Offers to repay and make donations to charity are coming in thick and fast
Shame we don't have a freedom of information law in Jersey. It would increase the JEP circulation no end
Stuart
Have put this on the JEP have your say to the leader column on the reciprocal health agreement. I don't expect it to be published as there has been increased censorship over the past two weeks, guess the JEP can't bear to hear the truth and what islanders really want to say.
"It's interesting you are allowing us to comment on this as there is no have your say on the actual headline story.
I've noticed in the last week or so that the number of articles where you allow the public to comment has significantly diminished. I'm sorry to see this as I think public comment adds greatly to debates about matters of importance to the island.
There clearly does appear to be some duplicitous statements from the CEO of Health Mike Pollard who uses weasel words that suggests he knew more than he is saying. He was 'at the table' so presumably 'saw the dishes in front of him' or at the very least the menu!"
I'm getting bored of this now, and this is the last post I will write on the matter.
Do you think that intelligence is also learned? Life is what you make it, and if you study hard - whether it be at school or self-study, your intelligence will increase. It's a personal opinion but if everyone were born intelligent then everyone would have a professional job which society couldn't sustain.
My posts do not have a go at anyone. It's a debate which is intrinsic - or should be - to any good democracy.
I.Q is not how intelligent your are but your capacity for aquiring that intelligence.
You can have the highest I.Q on the planet but if you have filled that capacity with crap then thats what you will know.
How you fill your capacity is generally after schooling because you are taught basics at school and most of your history is rubbish written by the politically motivated regime of that time.
Wake up your in the Matrix and you don't even know it.
Has Condor added the fuel surcharge to their prices in case fuel gets cheaper and they can keep the price higher then it would have been?
ADD TO THE LIST
URIEL
Jon appears to have had a few login sleepers on Planet Jerk off.
They are sayin' that you are in trouble over driving matters Stu
Sara on thisisjersey = JTM
JTM= Sara on the JEP's have your say.
I've finished on the grammar issue now, but I never ever said that IQ was intelligence.
IQ tests just show how good you are at quizzes and puzzles.I've never considered them to be of any value, since your score can vary so much from day to day.
You're quite right with the schooling issue, the majority of history lessons are composed of British history - but you would be surprised how balanced it can be sometimes.
I can also assure you that it isn't just the basics your taught at school since schooling institutions also encompass the A-level and degree years. If you're telling me that enthalpies and Boltzmann distributions are basics - you'd be right - especially to people with degrees in the stuff. However it isn't basic to the general population. It isn't my arrogance which leads me to such conclusions, but a recent study showed that most of the adult population were not educated adequately passed GCSE - possibly because they never did them, but also because they may have forgotten what they have done.
String Theory, Quantum Chromodynamics and Relativity may be crap to a lot of you - but to me it's very important.
Of course I'm advocating Science guys, it's what I do, and with already falling numbers of people studying it, it's almost essential that I do.
I reiterate that I never have said that IQ is related to intelligence, and have never brought IQ into any of this.
Dear Stuart
As expected the JEP did not publish my comment about the reciprocal health agreement so have left posting below which they will certainly not post.
"I knew you wouldn't post my comment...I'm sorry to see the JEP cave into the establishment again just when you were finding your feet. So I'm going to stop buying it again. Whoops there goes another reader!
PS I've posted both this and previous comment on Stuart Syvret's blog so it WILL get into the public domain.
You had your chance."
To Jon Haworth
AKA Jason Roberts (JTM)
None of us profit by silencing the voices of the people we disagree with. Nobody wins when people are afraid to speak.
So Jon what outcome did you seek?
Did you even consider the larger ramifications of your actions? Or did you plunge headlong into this child-like behaviour because you felt like you'd been wronged too many times and "you'd show them"? Well, you've shown them. You got what you wanted. You hurt them, scared them, and angered them. You've beaten up on decent people both on and off-line.
Now you feel their pain in in their time of retribution.
So the troll is finally exposed. I bet he didn't expect that did he? He probably thought he could carry on as he was. Nevemind I am a strong believer in reaping as you sow.
I see on that sad forum that the usual suspects, some, you know who in disguise, are now having a go at you over your driving Stuart. I am surprised at Gattaca, I mean Adrian, allowing all these attacks.
They are also trying to cause more problems for the JDA for some reason. I wonder what their link to the establishment is Stuart? It would be nice to know how they fit into the picture, things might become much clearer if we knew who these people really are.
Off topic, but on States Members perks, does one Housing Minister pay for garage facilities for his car at Housing rental property? Would it be a second garages allowance?
Please see following 2 text messages received on my phone.
QUOTE" WE KNOW YOU ARE A MUM.WE KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU. WE ALSO KNOW THAT YOUR LIFE WILL CHANGE" UNQUOTE
Next message in response to me saying I would take that as a threat and go to police
QUOTE"TRACE US.NO FU...NG CHANCE.YOU ARE THE TARGET"UNQUOTE
As one of the victims that reported JASON , sorry JON HAWORTH to the police , there are no guesses where this has come from.
He was warned a week ago that one more threat from him directly would have him arrested and charged ,another week of being frightened !
To those of you with evidence , please go to the police and stop him before he ruins others lives.
I can post mobile number this was received from but only if not breaking the law Stuart.
I recall Frank Walker saying that there will be no cover up's in Jersey. That the perpertrators will be bought to justice, ditto anyone caught covering up.
I don't believe him.
"The Thinker" I don't see that anyone has accused you of anything whatsoever.
A poster merely pointed out that I.Q (intelligence quotient,) is a way to measure the capacity for knowledge rather than how you fill that capacity.
Seeing that you are on the defensive and are educated to a level just above the average I would point out that the earlier poster said nothing about Quantum Mechanics Bio Physics. String Theory and Synaptic Interchange Expression and many other unmentioned possibilities.
“You can also assure everyone that its not just basics you learned at school” however that is a personal opinion based upon your own experiences and not the experiences of everyone.
Yes it is your arrogance which leads you to such conclusions because you seem to think you have all the answers and everyone else is wrong.
If you know about “Relativity” Then you would know that things are relative to the person who they are relative too meaning that each person has an opinion about their own experiences relatively speaking that is.
“I reiterate that I never have said that IQ is related to intelligence, and have never brought IQ into any of this.”
Nobody said you did!!! And stop acting so defensive. Surely that is above one so Intelligent…
Oh and The Thinker get yourself a blog and stop pretending your clever.
As well as his amiable racism,, lets not forget how JTM championed gay rights (sarcastically) on WhyGuernsey **rolls**eyes**
I think he's full of sh-- and wouldnt have the testicular fortitude to follow up his threats but its criminal behaviour anyway and he should face a court over it
QUOTE" WE KNOW YOU ARE A MUM.WE KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU. WE ALSO KNOW THAT YOUR LIFE WILL CHANGE" UNQUOTE
Next message in response to me saying I would take that as a threat and go to police
QUOTE"TRACE US.NO FU...NG CHANCE.YOU ARE THE TARGET"UNQUOTE
As one of the victims that reported JASON , sorry JON HAWORTH to the police , there are no guesses where this has come fromTime to finish the abuser for good.
Deputy Dawg
Clues
St Brelade
Manchester United
Denis Thatcher
its criminal behaviour anyway and he should face a court over it
Exactly.
Baker Tilly Channel Islands –
“A leading chartered accountancy practice based in St Helier, Jersey.”
Would you trust them now?
Speaking of the criminality of Jon Haworth's behaviour, may I suggest that his numerous other victims give serious consideration to making formal complaints to the police.
Obvioulsy, anyone like the commenter above who has experienced such direct and intimidating threats of possible violence from Jon - and/or his associates - should show some solidarity and go to the police.
But from the study I have made of his activities - it seems to me that he has broken the law in a number of other ways.
For example, tracking down or hacking the identities of commenters and bloggers who express non-oligarchy opinions - and making some very serious threats to them - such as telling them their employers will sack them - unless they stop expressing themselves.
Jon has done this to a very substantial number of people.
It is straight forwardly a criminal campaign.
It is a common law offence to seek to blackmail any person.
So if you've been threatened into silence by Jon and the rest of the gang - you are a victim of blackmail. Go to the police.
I am also reasonably familiar with the Computer Misuse Law - as I took it through the States during the 1990s.
I know that there are a big group of people out there that are victims of criminal offences under the Computer Misuse Law.
If - as we all know it has - computer technology has been used to hack, or track-down and identify private individuals - especially for the purposes of then subjecting them to blackmail and menace - those crimes must be added to the charge-sheet.
It is also worth considering the Crime and Disorderly Conduct, Harassment, Law.
I've had to become very familiar with this law - as the cops are threatening me with it - for something so straightforward as naming wrongdoers on my blog.
Given the tremendous enthusiasm the cops and Barking Bill have suddenly discovered for this law - they must - surely - be even more interested in investigating and prosecuting actual harassers?
They don't, of course, have a prayer of making it stick on me - well, not before a straight, competent court, anyway - because the manner in which they're abusing the law flies in the face of Article 10 of the ECHR.
But - by way of contrast - actually directly harassing people by sending them threatening e-mails, attempting to blackmail them, making undisguised personal threats to people, sending abusive and frightening text-messages, hacking people's computer data - all unambiguosly fall squarely within the ambit of the Crime and Disorderly Conduct Law.
And - certain individuals should bear this fact in mind - encouraging, assisting and supporting a person in any such criminal conduct - makes you an accessory to the crimes.
I can think of at least 6 people who have so been accessories to these, and similar, criminal offences.
So - all you many, many victims of Jon Haworth - and associates - first thing Tuesday morning - call the cops - and tell them you want to make criminal complaints concerning these crimes.
Stuart
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