Wednesday, 3 June 2009

JERSEY CHILD TORTURERS

JANE AND ALAN MCGUIRE

NOT TO FACE JUSTICE.

Bill Bailhache Lets Off

The Blanch Pierre Abusers

To Protect Michael Birt

And The Rest of The Jersey Oligarchy.


Well – although it was inevitable – the news is yet another savage abuse inflicted on the survivors by the Jersey oligarchy.

Jane and Alan McGuire – the two psychotic, abusing maniacs who tortured children for the best part of a decade during the 1980’s – will not be extradited from France – and will not face justice.

Forgive the brevity of this post – but I’m literally too angry to type properly.

I heard from my sources that a press-release, embargoed until midnight, will be issued by Bill Bailhache this afternoon.

I called survivors and asked them how they were.

What follows – you just couldn’t make up.

The survivors didn’t know.

They – the most important people involved in this situation - hadn’t been told of the decision.

Jersey oligarchy media had been informed of the story, and are waiting for this afternoon’s embargoed press release – before the survivors were informed that the two maniacs and thugs who abused them will not face justice.

This is abuse – all over again.

For the Jersey oligarchy – it’s far more important to get their spin-doctoring in-place first – rather than inform the most important people – the survivors; people whose lives have been wrecked by the States of Jersey.

You see - it's a "convenient" time to make the decision public - as Birt is on holiday - so can't be subjected to the media fire-storm this contemptible creature deserves.

The words disgusting, contemptible, sickening, disgraceful and dishonest just do not suffice to describe this conduct by Bill Bailhache and the Jersey oligarchy.

The survivors – having been informed by me, contacted the police – who reluctantly admitted that, yes, the McGuires would not face justice, and that their plan had been to call the survivors and inform them this evening.

That’s after the press-release will be in the hands of the media.

Yet the cops – under the “New Management” of David Warcup & co – were far more interested in how the survivors found out about the spin-doctoring of the decision.

The Jersey oligarchy – rotten to the core.

These people who have an iron grip on power in Jersey – have now delivered to the McGuires a hat-trick of corrupt let-offs.

1990.

1998.

and now we must add to the catalogue of shame and disgrace –

2009.

As I said – I’m too angry and upset to write at length now.

But be assured – in the coming days I will write in detail about this stinking betrayal.

In the mean-time – I must do what I can to support the survivors.

Stuart.

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Anonymous said...

Sadly, I am not surprised in the least by this decision.

Once again the behaviour of senior people in the Jersey legal system is nothing short of disgusting.

Is it not possible to organise a protest or something? Preferably whilst the States is in session.

Anonymous said...

Excuse my ignorance but what's their excuse for the lack of charges?

Ashley said...

What's the strory then - have they not got enough proof to convict these people? They can't just be letting them off - can they?

Anonymous said...

Face behind the name Michael Birt

Excuseless said...

Anon asks:
'Excuse my ignorance but what's their excuse for the lack of charges?'

Their 'excuse' can be one or both of the following:

1. Insufficient evidence.
2. Not in the public interest.

Q. How good is their excuse?
A. No good at all.

Anonymous said...

Stuart

What horrendous news for the victims of this twisted pair-although this latest will come as no suprise to regular visitors to your blog.

Is there absolutely no redress or appeal that can be submitted to change this insane decision?.

Many people who read of this latest "slap in the face" for the victims of child abuse in Jersey will no doubt think that Baillhache,Birt and Co should be ashamed of themselves.

Unfortunatly people like these dont "do" ashamed and they will view this as yet another success in the total whitewash of the whole scandal.

There is a mountain of evidence regarding the crimes the McGuires committed but-as in the Danny Wherry case-the fall out from any possible court action would be catastrophic to other well known figures.

A COVER UP!.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand!

Can the victims not press charges?

Whats going on??

Anonymous said...

As far as I can see there was too much evidence rather than not enough.

Anonymous said...

Convenient closure for the oligarchy. No closure for the victims. All they get is another blow when all they deserve is justice. No closure, no hope of moving on in their lives.

William Bailhache, you are either really thick or very cruel. Which is it then? You were the one who said that not much was known about child abuse in the 1990's. WRONG. Child abuse has been extensivly discussed in all circles since its discovery by the medical profession in the 1960's. Why cover up again? I can only assume its to protect your family, your friends and those civil servants, several of whom were guilty of the first Maguire cover up.

Linda Corby said...

Hi Stuart

This beggars belief!

It is plan sick, and makes me feel physically ill.

I am trying to find words to express my anger on behalf of the abuse victims, even as an author I am having great difficulty with this!

Surely there must be something we can do!

Jill Gracia said...

I am sickened to the pit of my stomach at this latest bit of news, and also by the way it has been handled.

Time for protests methinks. How can this be allowed to happen in a decent caring society? Oh.......I forgot this is Jersey where there are cover-ups galore. Just kick the poor old survivors in the teeth yet again, but hey, why should they matter when Jersey's 'reputation' (which stinks) has to be protected at all costs.

I well remember the Panorama programme on the McGuires, and hoped they would have their nasty faces exposed properly in a court of law. Sadly, it seems this will not happen and people should now be up in arms about this.

APPALLING.

Anonymous said...

Surely if people living in their area, or local politicians know that they have child abuses who had not been charged, living near them, there would be Hell to pay.

Their French address probably isnt hard to find.
There must be people reading this, fluent in French.

The local residents and politicians need to know!!

Anonymous said...

So does this mean people can commit any crime here (bank robbery, fraud, human trafficking etc.)and just get away with it by moving to France?

Or is it only child abuse that is allowed?

Zoompad said...

I'm very very glad this has happened.

That might seem like a strange thing to say, but I tell you now, this latest act of cruel and corrupt insanity is like the death writhings of a fatally wounded serpent.

It is so obvious to everyone now that this whole investigation of child abuse has been one massive cover up from the very start that there is now way that they can get out of this now. They are deep in the bunker, and panicking, and making some very bad mistakes. They have made a big error here - they could have thrown a couple of bones to appease the angry mob, instead, they have tried to retreat even further. They are losing their grip, because they know their time is over.

Stuart, re-assure the survivors that they will get justice - it's just a matter of time. It won't be too long now, praise God!

Anonymous said...

Could this decision be referred for judicial review? By a proper judicial system on the mainland, naturally, no point its being done here.

Anonymous said...

I think the oligarchy are pushing their luck now. Soon, the people will start taking the law into their own hands.
Isn't it possible for the surviving victims of abuse to send a plea for help directly to the Queen? Or am I being silly here?

Jill Gracia said...

..........and furthermore, you Mr Bailhache are as guilty as the McGuires now.

God, I am so angry.

Come on good people of Jersey, time to show 'them' what we think.

Anonymous said...

I thought that was quite obvious from the line of questioning in the states - yesterday - did not Montfort Tadier ask a very direct question re extradition a dwas told that currently no one was facing extradition. Rather than going over what had happened I woudl be more interested in discovering what teh abused can do to overturn this hideous decision. Am I to assume taht they were let off under some sort of double jepody type rule, or is the excuse to be lack of evidence. It pleases me greatly that at every States sitting someone raises teh issue of the abused and long may that continue. Today listening to the coverage of the States I am actually beginning to beleive that the oligarchs will fall - although it is highley unlikely that any of the ammendments that are raised by the left will get through - the establishment is taking a bashing and is being exposed for what it is..........a committee of self serving twats who have no concept of a divide between rich and poor - a let them eat cake attitude!
Stuart calm down the battle is not over - what can the abused do to get justice - can they go through ECHR or bring about a private prosecution - can they go public and expose this corrupt house and civil service - come on think ahead what can be done now.......

Anonymous said...

Take to the streets.
Stuart, when is the march planned?
Surely causing as much destruction as possible will help highlight the plight? Nothing else seems to work.

Anonymous said...

Mario Birt

Zoompad said...

"Isn't it possible for the surviving victims of abuse to send a plea for help directly to the Queen? Or am I being silly here?"

No, you're not being silly, it's a brilliant idea!

I've written to the Queen, didn't get a reply though, but Martin from DWP Corruption got a really great reply, so she is bothered.

Other good people to write to are the Archbishops and Bishops.

Perhaps we could nominate someone to write to here every day, post up their address and then all try to write to that one person?

Anonymous said...

All the powerful people in this island are concerned with is protecting the thin veneer of respectability that is currently in place ............No point in tabling Jack Straw as he will be on his way sooner rather than later as will Gordon Brown.........cant these people go to the ECHR under article 8..........can some legal begal give us bloggers a ststement on th eway forward,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,come on the people of Jersey - once the statement is released lobby every politician for justice for the abused

Linda Corby said...

Hi Stuart,

I am so piddled off by this that I have immediately done an article and Quoted this blog entry, I just couldn't stop myself, AG if you are reading this here is the link for you, http://digg.com/d1srRZ You AG just totally disgust me!

To those of you on here who have been abuse I send my love, I for one care. I will do whatever I can to highlight your plight. They can lock me up and throw away the key for all I care, I will not stand by and watch this horrific injustice, I couldn't live with myself if I did.

I feel like I am living in a cesspit full of vipers, and to be honest I really feel like seeking refuge statues in Australia.

Angry just doesn't do justice to the way this makes me feel!

Anonymous said...

No doubt you will be charged this week - they need a smoke screen - time for a mass resignation of fair minded States members - you cannot take pride in serving such a morally corrupt regime. If we had a Chief Minister with backbone this would not be allowd to happen. No doubt they want to release this news now because of the political chaos in the UK as journalists will be focusing on getting Brown out

Anonymous said...

"The local residents and Politicians need to know"

Get them kicked out, and dragged
back to face justice!

There must be a way surely?

Anonymous said...

David Roy Forno - Former teacher

Mr Forno faces five charges of inciting the making of an indecent image of a child. He was arrested on 17th April and has been remanded in custody since that time.

The Police are continuing their investigation into alleged internet offences committed by Mr Forno and a further remand of the case is expected.

The investigation team have received reports from more than 70 local school children that they have received inappropriate internet contact during 2008 and the early part of 2009. The Police are continuing their enquiries to establish the identity of the sender of these messages. The investigation is likely to continue for some time. The Police cannot comment further on this specific enquiry.

Anyone with information about this enquiry is asked to contact the investigation team on the dedicated telephone number of 612910 or at Police Headquarters on 612612.


MORE THAN 70 children have come forward ...........what is going on in this island and what will it take to get an appropriate sex offenders list and a link between Jersey and UK to ensure that we do not have an influx of paedophiles???

Has every single teacher on this island been polic checked irrespective of their length of service????????????

voiceforchildren said...

Stuart.

The Oligarchy, in my opinion, are not going to hold anybody of any standing to account for either child abuse, or equally as appalling, cover up of child abuse.

Why not? because they don't have to, the Oligarchy know you, myself and a couple of others might Blog about this latest disgraceful act. A few people will leave some comments on how outragous it all is a few others might contact a few politicians and perhaps a letter to the Queen.

The Oligarchy are only too aware that nobody is going to take to the streets with massive banners and protest. It's a foregone conclusion. A couple of Blogs, a couple of nasty comments, next week something new comes up and we start all over again and hey presto! It's business as usual for "The Establishment.

I am in talks with a couple of like minded people and we hope to be organising a demonstration, to be filmed and posted on youtube and to international Journalists.

Anybody interested?

Zoompad said...

"No doubt they want to release this news now because of the political chaos in the UK as journalists will be focusing on getting Brown out"


That letter idea - I nominate Gordon Brown as the person that we all write to.

You might suppose that Gordon Brown would be far too busy to deal with this right now, but I would not be so certain.

I think the Labour Party is full of corruption, but I have never thought that Gordon Brown is a morally corrupt man, I really do think that he really did truly want to be a good Prime Minister, and the poisoned chalice must be a source of real dissapointment. Remember, when he met with George Bush for the very first time at Camp David, Bush looked quite astonished after their first private meeting and made some strange little remark about Gordon Brown vbeing a man of good moral values or something. I thought it was a very strange thing for Bush to come out with.

Also, the very first week he took over Gordon Brown gave the boot to Lord Falconer as Justice minister. I am not a huge fan of Lord Falconer, for very good reasons to do with secrecy, vested interests, forced adoptions and the family courts, and I was dancing round the room when I'd heard that Gordon Brown did that.

I've written to Gordon Brown many times, and told him about child abuse, and I know that he has definatly read my letters. I might be deluded, but I think that Gordon Brown does care about institutional child abuse very much - but I think he really does not have any idea what to do about it!

But I am convinced that he is at heart a decent man, who wants to stop abuse. His wife is a very nice woman - she used to work for Women's Aid, and helped expose institutional abuse in the secret family courts. Why would Gordon Brown marry a nice women who cared about institutional abuse if he didn't share her compassion? I think it would be a really good idea to write to him, what can we lose by trying? I think that it would be a very good time to do this, I have a really good feeling about this.

MARIO MCGUIRE said...

Child Torturers

Ahimsa said...

I do hope you are right Zoompad when you wrote. "Stuart, re-assure the survivors that they will get justice - it's just a matter of time. It won't be too long now, praise God!"

Because I am angry too. I had to write this just to let the survivors know that we are all still here in support.

Take heart Senator Syvret:

Truth Will Out

Anonymous said...

If a plea for help was to be written to the Queen, I think it should be written by the abuse survivors themselves, not by a legal representative or by Stuart. That would ensure an honest,emotional,heartfelt plea.

I also think that every one of the 160 or so survivors, who complained and gave evidence to the police,should sign the letter.

The Queen is the Queen, but she is also an ordinary warm human being with a heart. I think she might just take an interest. It's got to be worth a go.

Jill Gracia said...

Panorama tracked the McGuires down, so it cannot be that difficult.

Linda, I too would gladly get locked up to support the victims of abuse and this total miscarriage of justice. Us ordinary peasants seem to have more heart and courage than the 'Ballache' types in the States.

They are the lowest of the low.

Let's have some sort of protest in the Square, maybe just a silent sit-down on a States meeting day right in front of the hallowed portals that let Oligarchy in to further corrupt this Island.

God, if I could afford to leave I would be gone tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

Howd ya get on at the parish hall?

Anonymous said...

Zoompad wrote-

"Other good people to write to are the Archbishops and Bishops".

Why???

Sorry Zoomy - the C of E is totally out of touch with the realities of the 21st century and has failed for years to give ANY form of realistic moral leadership to their flock.

And the Catholic faith?-Oh come on!-past masters in covering up years of child abuse within their ranks...remind you of anyone?.

Its ALL about money and power-the establishment- and thats why the McGuires havent been extradited to face charges in Jersey-because if they start singing to save their skins itll blow the lid off the whole cover up!.

Patience Zoomy-the s**t will hit the fan soon enough-but it wont be from divine intervention but from much closer to the AGs office....and theres not a thing he can do about it!.

Frightened and powerless is a real bitch of a place to be, eh William?.

Anonymous said...

Is it possible to organise a public rally on the day of this man's inauguration.

A mass public jeer when the clowns go past in their antiquated costumes may show what a stinking decision this is.Alternatively let's get a petition to the Queen calling for Birt's removal.

Anton Skinner - must be breathing a sigh of relief as he picks up another months wage packet from Jersey Focus and of course his inflated pension.

Marnie Baudain - another person let off the hook by this decision
IT STINKS.

Anonymous said...

Stuart,
It is with great sadness that I suspect this decision was predictable entirely. Given the corrupt nature of the cess pit that is the Jersey hierarchy,we should not let ourselves be shocked at their perversion of the legal process. They are perverse people as we all know.

Let us see this as a challenge. We are not defeated, merely living on to see justice and the victims get their day and more.

We FIGHT and see these corrupt, paedophile cronies where they belong. I'm up for it and who else?

Frances.

Anonymous said...

tonnes of questions about is there anything we can do about it Stuart, come on m8 Answers please...

Anonymous said...

What a terrible injustice , this cannot be allowed to happen.
To the people out there whose lives have been affected by Jane and Alan Mc Guire ,be reassured that people care. Yes take to the streets and show this corrupt ruling elite enough is enough. We will not allow a cover up to happen as has happened in Ireland.
These people need justice.
The jeenie is out of the bottle now, no matter how hard they try the oligarchy cannot put him back in.
The internet is a fantastic tool for getting information out to people , use it and spread the word .

Anonymous said...

Voiceforchildren

Count on me, my husband and 5 others

Anonymous said...

'I am in talks with a couple of like minded people and we hope to be organising a demonstration, to be filmed and posted on youtube and to international Journalists.

Anybody interested?'

YES, YES, YES.

Jill Gracia said...

Count me in on your demo VFC.

Anonymous said...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/7268734.stm

Lest we forget - watch just one more time Bailhache.

Anonymous said...

Dear Stuart

If VFC organises a rally, count me in.

Time to stand up an be counted.

Anonymous said...

I do think that my idea to write to the Queen does have merit, but I read with interest what Zoompad has to say about Gordon Brown. I want to say how much I agree with every word she says about him. Couldn't the plea for help go to both of them?

I feel angry and I can sense the huge anger which seeps through every comment left here on Stuart's blog today. But I feel that while this anger is a wonderful fuel in the engine which will drive the next steps towards cleaning up the awful political and moral mess in this Island, it is also what could enable the oligarchy and the legislature to win once again.

Now is the time for self control, not anger. We need some big guns behind us. Guns that the Bailhache brothers will fear, guns that they will have to answer to.

Changing the subject if I may, I would just like to say that I have great respect for Zoompad. She has passion, intelligence and grit. A lovely lady I think.

Anonymous said...

Jersey abuse scandal

Anonymous said...

Don't be discouraged. Find some unexpected ways to fight back until you reach the tipping point. Since Jersey does not allow private prosecutions, instigating social shame as a private form of persecution is the only way left, but it can be both creative and defensible through art.

Since the Jersey clergy do not care enough to help, how about the art community? I know that some of the supporters of this blog are accomplished musicians and artists, so why not involve them?

Artists: there should be seperate songs written about ALL those known abusers, played at all venues until everyone has heard them. There should be poems and graphic arts exposing those corrupt individuals who cover up abuse. Political puppet shows for children, anyone? Everyone who cares about children should be able to purchase a tee shirt with Mario Lundy's name on it. The McGuire's should be well known to all their French neighbors in word, tee shirt depictions and song. Utube, too.

Just my opinion, as a far away artist.

Anonymous said...

Danny wherry is another who will not be charged!!!!!!!!!Why are these animals being protected

Anonymous said...

DANNY WHERRY

Anonymous said...

The oligarchs would expect small local protests over a few unpopular decisions, but to attract real press coverage it may be necessary to capture the attention of more than the usual number of civic minded locals.

Timing could be crucial.

Instead of protests when the local decision makers are meeting, how about protesting whenever and wherever international politicos and VIPs are being feted? Powerful investors and political types would be rather alarmed by such protests, especially those which could attract mainland press scrutiny.

Under the right conditions, the foreign press could already be in Jersey to cover critical finance talks.

- Naughty

Anonymous said...

A letter/email bearing the names of those who were abused by these people should be sent to everyone, including all The Queen, Prince Charles, all MPs, the Queens Representative in Jersey, requesting the right of Redress relating to their appauling situation and the appauling situation of all of those who have suffered abuse, the lack of Freedom of Speech, Justice.

They do answer, well some of them, you will see which MPs are prepared to put their name to Justice in Jersey, mostly liberal and Labour MPs.

Zoompad you are right about Gordon Brown, he is indeed an honest caring man and I am more than sure if a deputation turned up at No 10 he would listen.

It is important that it be made known the anger which is being felt by many of the islanders.

PS Make sure tweedle de and tweedle dum as well as the mut in waiting are aware of the steps you are prepared to take.

Anonymous said...

Didn’t Iris Le Feuvre give the Mc Guires a letter of commendation ?I think she was also a fan of Danny Wherry .

STEPHEN LUNDY said...

What about pelting the States Chamber with rotten fruit?
VFC is right it's time to take action.
Peaceful protest no more. We need banners, sirens. It needs to be a comotion otherwise nobody listens.

Anonymous said...

Any one fancy organising a coach trip to france, the locals are very friendly and are keen to promote people power and democracy.

Linda Corby said...

Hi Stuart,

How about getting Jeremy Paxman to interview you and the AG on this?

Here is the link to contact Newsnight if anyone would like to request that this is considered for the program,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/248089.stm

Anonymous said...

re demonstration: if lunch time or week end, you can count on me

Anonymous said...

VFC is right, a few bloggers wont make the slightest difference, the Jersey public as a whole don't care, this is an island of I,m alright jack's. Things may change when the plug is pulled, whe the greed finally brings it all tumbling down and everyone is affected but at the moment people are just too comfortable. The only community spirit here is within the old boys network.

Anonymous said...

Should an appeal also be made to Gordon Brown's wife? Does anyone have her direct contact information?

Anonymous said...

Stuart

Shouldn't this evidence of blatant injustice help you demonstrate to the UK courts why Jersey cannot be trusted to handle it's own judicial affairs?

Elle

Web Guru said...

Newsnight link

TonyTheProf said...

That's appalling. You'd think that after Panorama, some action would be taken!

Anonymous said...

"Sorry Zoomy - the C of E is totally out of touch with the realities of the 21st century and has failed for years to give ANY form of realistic moral leadership to their flock.

And the Catholic faith?-Oh come on!-past masters in covering up years of child abuse within their ranks...remind you of anyone?."

I agree with you! I don't go to church any more - I used to, but during my seven year secret family court ordeal I did beg the Church to help me - three churches I begged and pleaded to help me, and all of them turned their backs on me, Methodist, Anglican and Baptist. Actually a very nice Catholic lady was really kind to me, if it wasn't for her I do not know how I'd have got through that hellish time. But that was a Catholic lady who was kind, and there is a big difference between an individual person and the entire church hierarchy.

The churches are a magnet for abusers, as are schools, social services and anywhere else where paedophiles can easily get at their prey. But not all the people in the church are paedophiles and evil people. Some of the people in positions of authority really do want to help, but not everyone is as strong and brave as Stuart Syvret, so when the heat is turned up, they back down.

People in the Church ought to be really brave - after all, we Christians are assured of eternal life, and that thought ought to make us a lot braver than people who do not believe, because if you are assured that you are going to have eternal life, then it seems illogical to worry about getting murdered by wicked people while on this planet. I don't like to throw stones, but I do know that there are people in the church who do know full well what is going on, but they are too scared to do anything about it. One vicar I spoke to acknowledged that I was telling the truth about the abuse - I had begged him to help us, even just to pray for us, - but he said to me, "I gave up a good job to become the vicar of this church". What can you say to someone like that, who obviously has no real vocation or passion to fire his spirit, and only entered the church as a means of substinance? I couldn't think of a single thing to say to that man of the cloth, so I just thanked him for his time listenening to me, and left. Stuart is putting a lot of people to shame!!!!!

The church leaders have a duty to help us! It's in the Bible, and even if a person is not a christian, they can still hold the church to do their duty to God, who they profess to have laid down their lives for! It is a contract - every vicar and priest enters into a covenant with God, and they can be held to honour the terms of that contract! There's nothing airy fairy about it - it is a legal and binding contract, and that is what we ought to be insisting on, that they honour the contract that they made with God!

THATS why I say that we ought to be writing to Archbishops and Bishops ect. We really ought to use the massive power that we already have - we have the terms of God's covenent with the Church at our disposal, to challenge the ungodly behaviour of the churches, and if we just used that it would be much more effective than any number of protests! Luther did it, and look what happened!

Zoompad

Anonymous said...

Just send any letters to Mrs Brown to 10 Downing Street, and she will get them.

It won't be a waste of time, I know it gets disheartening, but we are going to see people brought to justice in Jersey and in the UK, I am absolutly sure of it.

There are whistle blowers coming forward now, over the forced adoption industry, and over the institutional abuse in the UK as well. There are a lot of things bubbling away just under the surface, and we are definatly not wasting our time blogging and writing letters. I'd like to say things about some of the upheavals that are taking place in my own area, but I don't want to spoil anything, so I won't.

We mothers have a little thing that we like to do, which is, to try to tell at least three new people every day about the abuses. We chat to people, strangers, at bus stops, supermarket queues ect, some of us hand out little bite sized nuggets of information leaflets that we produce ourselves - you can print out 4 to one pieve of A4 Some people are funny about it, but most people are interested and that is just such an easy and gossippy way of getting people to know the truth. It's nibbling away at the edges all the time, if lots of people are doing that, it's amazingly effective. A whole bunch of mice could easily fell a big tree very quickly if they all work together!

Zoompad

Anonymous said...

I have sent a letter of protest to the Lieutenant-Governor.

He is, after all, the Queen's representative on the island.

I earnestly recommend that others do the same.

Anonymous said...

How about making appeals to a few well known 'celebs' to support the ' Justice for Jersey child abuse victims' campaign. Perhaps appeal to Joanna Lumbly?

Proud Survivor said...

I am haunted by the faces of the McGuires' victims on the Panorama programme. Their suffering was comparatively recent! What chance the victims of 40 or 50 years ago? I am also haunted by the McGuires faces - him still full of anger and aggression and her cowering pathetically in their car.

If any of you from Blanche Pierre are reading this and want to contact me Stuart has my email. I cannot begin to understand the emotions you must be going through but you have a lot of angry friends and supporters on this blog.

I don't live in Jersey now so a protest might be hard for me to make. I am however bilingual in French so next time I visit a certain area of France I will certainly spread the word!

Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Confessions of Stuart Syvret:

Part 1.

I’m asked above, “How’d ya get on at the parish hall?”

My, my – Dan is so unwise with that flapping mouth of his; no doubt he’ll have to make another untrue denial in the States tomorrow.

But – to answer the question - absolutely brilliantly! – Couldn’t have worked out better if I’d planned it!

For my non-Jersey readers, a parish hall enquiry is a kind of pre-court, quasi-judicial process conducted by voluntary parish police officers called Centeniers.

And in the case of the parish of Grouville – the Centeniers work to our old acquaintance Dan Murphy – the parish Constable – and a politician. (How many modern democracies have politicians who are also policemen? Well, it’s certainly handy for the Jersey oligarchy – political law-enforces – to keep the opposition in-line.)

And he and they work to our other old acquaintance – Barking Bill Bailhache.

So what you have is, essentially, a Politicised police force in each of the 12 parishes, under the ultimate control of the Jersey Attorney General – who is, himself, an unelected politician – who frequently uses his seat in the States Assembly to make highly partisan, pro-oligarchy interventions.

What was the parish hall enquiry about?

You remember when I was arrested in the presence of 10 cops – yes, 10 cops; when I originally said 8, I miscounted; it was kind of difficult to get the numbers precise under the circumstances - as I stepped from my front door? And I was held in locked cells at the local nick for 7 hours whilst the police turned over my home from top to bottom – without a search warrant – in respect of alleged data protection law breaches?

The cops used that opportunity to go through my property, my computer, my political files and my personal files – in a desperate search for something – anything – they could do me for.

And – guess what? They discovered that my driving licence had expired a couple years ago, and I hadn’t up-dated a change of address to my car registration.

Both offences – undoubtedly. And I fully accept I’m guilty of both – as I told Dan and Bill’s men this evening at the parish hall enquiry.

Both offences were “honest mistakes”; (now, I’m sure I’ve heard that phrase somewhere just recently) – inadvertent offences which arose given I was under the demands of running a £150 million a year health & social services department – and, in particular – during the last 2 years – uncovering, and battling against, decades upon decades of concealed child abuse.

Frankly – when you’re meeting dozens and dozens of broken and wrecked survivors – it does tend to take one’s mind off mundane personal administrative issues.

Especially when one knows – as was demonstrated again today – that the Jersey authorities are going to do every single damn thing in their power to carry on burying the outrages.

So even though I renewed the licence weeks ago – and likewise updated the car registration – and took the documents to the police station - where a cop read them - and gave me a written receipt – I got summoned by the States of Jersey Police to a parish hall enquiry.

Incidentally – and you’ll like this – the letter sent by the States of Jersey Police, summoning me to the parish hall, got mailed to me – in what can only be a calculated act of harassment – without any form of paid postage. So, not being at home, the postman put a notice (which I’ve still got) through the letter-box saying I had an un-paid item of mail which I would have to collect – and pay a surcharged of £1.71. As I never collect unpaid mail items, I didn’t bother collecting it – not for one instant imaging that an official letter would be sent without postage being paid.

So the parish hall enquiry decided that I’m such a monstrous crook, they couldn’t deal with these offences with a written caution or anything of that nature – oh no....

(Continued.)

Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Confessions of Stuart Syvret:

Part 2.

I would have to be summoned to the Jersey magistrates’ court for sentencing.

10.00 am; 18th June.

Be there or be square.

But why is this such a good outcome?

Because it represents the beginning of the long path to Strasbourg.

When I appear in court – I will make a recusal application – basically arguing that no part of the Jersey magistrate’s court – nor the island’s judicial apparatus generally – can meet the test of the appearance of objectivity in respect of any case involving me.

They all know who I am – they all hate me – in fact, Phil Bailhache has even criticised and condemned my stance – whilst he was swearing-in a magistrate!

Therefore, their system is incapable of delivering to me an objective and impartial court.

A “fair hearing before an impartial tribunal” as is required by the European Convention on Human Rights.

You see – as Barking Bill and his fellow Jersey oligarch, Julian Clyde-Smith are terribly found of screaming, – “every one is equal before the law!”

Great – no problem with that.

So I, therefore, have exactly the self-same rights as any other Jersey citizen.

Such rights including – quite fundamentally – access to an impartial and objective court.

And, I think it quite understandable that I do exercise my human rights to be sentenced for my atrocities by an impartial and objective court.

You see, unless that happens – I might get fined £12,000.

Which – as we know – is the kind of sentence incurred by any troublesome pleb who has irritated the establishment in Jersey.

As my political battles have progressed over the last couple of years, and as legal dimensions have come into the equation, I have developed a few flow-charts. You know the kind of thing – X or Y could happen – therefore event A or B must follow.

And the Jersey “justice” system features large in those mappings.

So on the 18th June – the Jersey magistrates court will do one of three things in response to my recusal application.

They will agree with my recusal motion – in which case, it’s off to the Royal Court – where I shall make exactly the same recusal motion. (This outcome is most unlikely.)

They will reject my recusal motion – in which case it’s off to the Royal Court where I shall appeal the rejection of the recusal motion and any fine imposed. (This outcome is far more likely.)

They will adjourn the case – whilst they go off and have a panicked conflab with the Bailhache Brothers as to what they should do. (This outcome, too, is distinctly possible.)

And – from there on in – the flow-chart progresses – at every twist and turn – through the court of appeal – through the judicial committee of the privy council – on to the European Court of Human Rights at Strasbourg.

All this because I want – as is the right of any and all people – to be sentenced for my heinous crimes - by an impartial and objective court.

Remember – “we’re all equal before the law”. Therefore everyone has the same fundamental rights.

The process I outline above may well be tedious and time-consuming – but look on the bright side.

Given that the Jersey prosecution and judicial system has made time for dealing with such dreadful criminal threats to society as me, and the JDA 2 – by casting aside such comparative trivia as prosecuting child rapists and senior figures who have concealed child abuse – we may as well make efficient use of the courts.

So – here we go.

Great journeys start with but a single step.

Stuart.

Anonymous said...

The whole of the UK media will be covering the elections tomorrow, so what a good time to release this information!!!

Equally for those who wish to highlite this dreadful decision, you should select a significant date to do so, perhaps at the Battle of Flowers or similar.

ozzy said...

I am not suprised, just angry. What chance have we HDLG survivors got of justice in the wake of this decision? in my opinion none. Makes me wonder why I bothered.

By the way Stuart, I did email you twice in the last month or so but no reply?

Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Ozzy

Sorry, maybe you could e-mail me again, to remind me?

It's just that I'm so inundated with work demands that sometimes I just miss some calls or e-mails.

Regards

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Stuart,
'Be there or be square' (quote from your post)

What does this mean?

Senator Stuart Syvret said...

It means - come along to watch.

I'm inviting people to attend and observe proceedings from the public seats.

It's going to be such a novelty for me - experiencing an oligarchy 'hearing' which is actually open to the public.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

“Every one is equal before the law!”

OK. I am still trying to understand your island's judicial system.

Force children in your paid care to drink Detrol and you may retire to the French Countyside.

Help your elderly constituents to fill out application forms for routine postal votes and be fined a big chunk of your annual salary.

For the sake of the public interest, blog about a serial murder investigation left unfinished for many years, and you are confronted with 10 police officers for an arrest and warrantless property search, then detained for 7 hours.

Request establishment of a Sex Offender Registry, and be told it cannot be done because there are not enough police staff to handle that, perhaps because it takes 10 officers at a time just to speak with an unarmed senator.

Fail to properly fill out paperwork for your automobile and face more consequences than the McGuires ever will.

And, as someone always remembers to mention, there's MARIO LUNDY.

Do I have this right?

Anonymous said...

Deputy Dawg et al on PJ are getting excited about that hearing over your driving liscence. For those who don't want any more talk about generations of Jersey's abused and destroyed children, your paperwork problem seems to be the most thrilling moral issue of recent times!

Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Well, Deputy Dawg is Senator Sarah Ferguson's son - so no big suprises at the ignorance and idiocy there.

Hey! - Now I rember it - maybe she and Egre could go and have a private, secret meeting with Bill Bailhache - and ask him to drop the charges against me?

You remember? Just like they did with Boschat, the tow-truck operator - who certain of the cops liked so much - becuase of his bribes in exchange for the road accident business?

Stuart

Senator Stuart Syvret said...

By the way - to all my EU readers - and UK readers in particular - in the elections -

VOTE GREEN.

Stuart.

Senator Stuart Syvret said...

By the way - to all my EU readers - and UK readers in particular - in the elections -

VOTE GREEN.

Stuart.

Anonymous said...

Stuart

So, they will spin your little paperwork problem into a huge scandal?

In light of the McGuires being allowed to avoid further legal inconvenience, I see your expired licence as just another opportunity to show the world which kind of justice truly matters most to those clowns in power.

Anonymous said...

They are determined to get you one way or another Stuart.
However the Ferguson womans son has been on about this for days, she has obviously been mouthing it off to her family contravening the Data Protection Act, discussing your Personal Files and impending prosecution with her Right Wing excuse for a son. Amazing isn't it they have been discussing this on PJ for some time, your the highlight of their discussions they care not one jot about sex offenders they prefer to hold their Kangaroo courts, dissect your every move that I am begining to wonder if they have surveillance cameras on you 24 hrs a day - sad bunch of nerds.


However Stuart getting back to the Ferguson woman is it true that she has been asked to pose over her "cauldron" for this years Womens Institute Calender. It seems that she is renowned for her mixing of obnoxious stuff and then serving it up. I understand they wanted the Bailiff and AG to sit alongside her for a special feature on 31st October wearing only their funny hats.

I understand she is at present concocting her own special brew - drip feeding the Establishment, I believe it is called "Witch in Waiting".

Seriously Stuart the saddest thing of all IMHO is yet again the abused of Jersey are being subjected to further abuse. What they are saying is "We do not believe you" we prefer to believe the McGuires were model carers - the home they were employed to run was run in a caring efficient manner and "the States of Jersey have no Duty of Care." they have no Duty to see Justice done, they have no duty whatsoever to anyone who claims to have suffered. I think the UK now has the duty to take over the running of Crown Dependency of Jersey - what a sad reflection when a Senator is summonsed to appear before a court for the misdemeanor of traffic offences when those who subjected young people in care to Sexual, Physical, Mental abuse are still free to live their lives without redress. Jersey is ruled by Sick Evil Brothers who will one day soon get their just rewards.

You know Stuart you only have to read the content of Planet Jersey to realise what a sico society Jersey has become. Money orientated - no wonder tourists no longer invade the island.

Anonymous said...

In the UK elections

For the County Council elections I am voting for a man I KNOW cares about our community - I am voting for the man not the party (just as well I have never voted Liberal in my life)

I strongly believe in the EU - I will be certainly NOT be voting Conservative (the Con party) I certainly will NOT be voting for UKIP (you only have to look at Jersey to see what happens when a bunch of right wingers have overall control) I will indeed be voting LABOUR - for a person who puts Green issues at the top of the agenda, also cares about Justice, Freedom of Speech, the Right of Redress etc., etc., This is my choice, fortunately I have the freedom to choose -

Anonymous said...

I CANNOT believe the headlines on Channel TV The HDLG enquiry is closed No more charges. This is the most outrageous disgracefull offence against HUMANITY - I am appauled, disgusted and find this unbelieveable. What an insult to to ALL the people in Jersey

Anonymous said...

Oh for God's sake do these hobby bobbies have nothing better to do with their time and my tax money - hauling you before a court re driving licence offences - how ridiculous - could this have been dealt with at parish hall level?

Did Jim Perchard mumble something to you during yesterday ssitting - I thought I detected a minor fracas when you got up to speak?

What really angers me is that certain politicians dislike you to such an extent that you have little chance of ever getting a proposition through - certain politicians are intellectualy bankrupt, and it shows! That said how many Backbenchers stand a chance of getting anything through - Geoff Southern has been battling away at teh system for years, and he is only just breaking through!

On HDLG is the whole enquiry closed, and other investigations continue - or is that it all over?

This may be contentious and I appreciate that it cannot be easy to come out into the open and say this is what actually happened to me whilst in care in Jersey, but I feel that the people in Jersey need to see faces and hear the stories of people that were abused by the Maguires.

I assume that The Care Leavers Association have been encouraged to sit back and let justice take it's course only to be let down by the judiciary here in Jersey.

Surely it is now time to stand up and be counted - come out into the open - tell us your stories and let us (THE PUBLIC) see the human side of this cover up.

I know some of you have already done this, I know it is a lot to ask.....but please do not let this happen.

People in general do not associate white collar workers with criminal activity, but these people had a duty of care towards the abused and many of them are still in situ today................

If you wish to make sure that this does not happen in Jersey again .........Take Action - STAND UP AND BE COUNTED .........do not be placated by spin

Anonymous said...

JERSEY CARE LEAVERS ASSOCIATION

Could you start an island wide petition to the Queen

Anonymous said...

Stuart, having not changed your address of your car registration, is clearly an oversight, although it could be said that should the police have needed to contact the registered owner (in that time), they would have discovered it was owned by you, and as at least ten of them knew where you now live, it could not be claimed you were untraceable!!

With regards your expired driving Licence, I assume you have held this for some considerable years (how long is one issued for in Jersey) and so the renewable date is easily forgotten, whereas you have clearly not forgotten how to drive and still know the highway code! Not quite in the same league has having not obtained a Licence, or been banned from driving etc...
Both a technicality, and as you have corrected this oversight, that should have been the end of the matter. However, how much of the taxpayers of Jersey money will be wasted on trying pursuing an action?!

A new headline/story is surely required: Today a man was arrested outside his home in an early morning raid carried out by ten police officers. He was kept in a locked cell and only released after 7 hours. A spokesman for the police said they had discovered this man had not updated his car registration address and failed to renew his driving Licence, mitigating circumstances will not be entertained, this is a serious crime and must be treated as such.

Although this may strategically play into Stuarts hand it is nonetheless another demonstration of how bad Jersey is. So it's okay to allow child abusers to escape punishment for their horrific crimes but an honest politician with a trivial oversight must be charged, oh my oh my!.

Zoompad said...

"I'm inviting people to attend and observe proceedings from the public seats. "

I'm going to try to get over to Jersey for that!

Stuart, they won't dare to put you in prison or kill you - you have a lot more support than you can imagine. People from other pressure groups which have nothing to do with Haut de la Garenne would go mad if they tried to jail you.

Remember what happened when Diana died - the whole nation erupted, and there was a great sea of flowers outside Buckingham Palace. They would not be wanting anything like that again! Diana probably never could have imagined how many people bore her good will - I think I remember that there were three books of condolence signed just in our little town Stone - it is a very small town - I remember them laying open on a table in our local library, so I don't know how many books were signed altogether, but it must take up a lot of space if those books are still kept! So don't let those bas*ards scare you - they only ever rule by fear and secrecy, and once they lose those weapons they don't have anything left - they certainly don't have what you have, which is deep admiration! Your determination, courage and compassion is making you shine like a star, no wonder these nasty devils hate you so much - people can see them for what they are every time they attack you!

People aren't stupid - they can tell the difference between a lapsed driving license due to stress and absent mindedness and deliberate and wicked institutional child abuse. People get pretty angry about frame ups and corruption, and the Daily Telegraph has put the people in exactly the right frame of mind to do something about it!

Zoompad said...

10.00 am; 18th June.

Can we wear Mario T Shirts?

Anonymous said...

Just listened to channel report bulletin at seven am this morning It led with the words of William Bailhache saying the doors of the historic child abuse case will now be closed there will be no more prosecutions.
Eight o’clock channel report a little bit of re editing had taken place.
The Police were surprised at this announcement from the attorney generals office. They have many more cases still being looked into and will soon be presenting them to William Bailache.
Not that its going to make the slightest bit of difference, they have been trying to bury all of this since news broke around the world .
Shame on you William Bailache.

Anonymous said...

Nothing on the SOJP web re HDLG?
Nothing on Reuters?
Nothing on Sky News?

8.26am ...........I am working on it!

Power to The People

The Oligarchs have chosen to bury their news on the day of the European Elections ...........someone in teh Communications Dept will probably have a day off as a reward at taxpayers expense!

Anonymous said...

One never could or would advocate vigilanteism but equally if one's child was the victim of abuse I would have no faith in the Jersey Police or judiciary administering justice.

Anonymous said...

http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/06/01/it-was-right-that-officer-should-go/

GUERNSEY’S police chief could not have been more explicit when he apologised for the conduct of one of his officers who had roughed up a 65-year-old woman.

The PC’s behaviour was below standard and the force issued an unreserved apology and a bouquet of flowers to the pensioner.

This was no borderline case. The Magistrate’s Court convicted on assault and the Royal Court rejected an appeal.

Independent, but professional, individuals considered the PC’s actions. After admitting a breach of the disciplinary code he was asked to resign, a more honourable alternative to being sacked.

Yet despite that, two deputies and a non-States member of Home have decided that the professionals - and the police chief - have got it all wrong and the sub-standard copper should keep his job after all.

Even more unacceptable, the panel has not got the courage to explain their reasons to a frankly bemused island. Courts of appeal do not normally set aside judgements unless there are clear reasons for doing so and they should be disclosed in this case. The reality is that the Home panel has spectacularly botched the job. Reinstating the police officer was the worst possible decision.

It compromises the police chief and questions the adequacy of the work done by Devon and Cornwall as the independent investigators.

What message does that give an off-island force involved in disciplinary or complaint matters locally? Policing is all about the trust and confidence islanders have in their officers.

The chief knows that. So, too, do his staff. What they do not need is to keep looking over their shoulder to see if one of their brother officers with previous is stepping out of line.

One case of bad behaviour reflects poorly on them all, which is why the chief is rigorous - and rightly so - in rooting it out.

Officers have a difficult job and need political support to do it. Three members of Home have effectively said they know better than the courts, the disciplinary process and Devon and Cornwall police and saddled the Guernsey force with a lame-duck bobby with a criminal conviction.

If there is any justification for that, islanders must be told what it is.

Anonymous said...

http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/06/01/back-in-the-job-the-pc-his-chief-does-not-want/

A SUB-STANDARD police officer with a criminal record has been put back on the streets by the Home Department.

PC Stuart Allan (pictured), who was convicted of assault, has had an appeal upheld by politicians and been reinstated into the force - even though his chief officer does not want him.

He was required to resign following an independent inquiry which was critical of his handling of a woman, which led to the assault case.

However, a lay appeal panel headed by deputy Home Department minister Francis Quin and including Deputy Jenny Tasker and non-States member Andrew Ozanne, concluded that there was not enough evidence to stop PC Allan from keeping his job.

All three declined to discuss why they wanted to retain PC Allan.

Rosemarie Holt, 65, who was left with bruising to her arm and cuts to her wrist following an incident with the officer in March of last year, said the decision ‘beggared belief’.

She even received an apology and a bouquet of flowers from chief of police George Le Page, who stated that PC Allan’s conduct towards her ‘fell well below the standard that the community of Guernsey and myself expect’.

Anonymous said...

Stuart I would swear that when I read ChannelonLine TV news first thing this morning they said that the HDLG enquiry is OVER. There will be no further prosecutions.

I am sure it has now changed its tact. Can anyone else confirm what I read. If what I read is correct Channel TV have either altered the statement or have been TOLD to tone it down. Which is it, this needs looking into NOW

Anonymous said...

Historic Child Abuse Inquiry: Two cases dropped

Anonymous said...

Hansard - THURSDAY, 30th APRIL 2009
Senator B.I. Le Marquand:

"Now, under the terms of Article 29 the power to search is and, indeed, was limited to evidence relating to the particular offences for which the arrest took place. There is no power to search willy-nilly. There is no power of a fishing expedition to look for anything. The search is severely limited"

Well looky here. The cops search your property on the pretext of obtaining evidence relating to a specific offence and then bust you for something else that they happen to find. Sounds like a fishing expedition to me! Very fishy indeed.

By the way, word verification: 'Phidles'

How appropropriate...

Jill Gracia said...

'As for the victim's statements, but Mr Bailhace said cases often came down to being the word of one person against another.'

This extract taken from Bailhache's statement reproduced on channelonline.tv.

Working on this premise then, what hope then is there for any other victims to obtain justice. Surely the crux of the matter is what the victims have stated happened to them. Of course the McGuire's are going to deny any charges. Have they been questioned since they left the Island?

What an easy 'cop-out'.

Hang your head Bailhache.

Anonymous said...

The half hour closure to Mike Higgins
ammendment has been proposed at 9:35 am -

Anonymous said...

I presume you will ask the court to dismiss any evidence collected during the search of your home as inadmissible on the grounds that the search was illegal?

Web Guru said...

Back in the job - the PC his chief does not want

It was right that officer should go

Anonymous said...

The situation appears to be this.

1. Bill calls the tunes and his word is final. There is (according to him) no avenue, such as a judicial review, available to challenge his decisions.
2. Bill also says that there is no mechanism in Jersey to bring a private prosecution.

Therefore, according to the Word of Bill, that is final in so far as criminal proceedings are concerned. All domestic remedies have been exhausted.

Where then do we go?

It may be another Strasbourg remedy.

Article 13
“Everyone whose rights and freedoms as set forth in the Convention are violated shall have an effective remedy before a national authority notwithstanding that the violation has been committed by persons acting in an official capacity.”

The Maguires' were acting in an official capacity. Rights and freedoms were violated. An effective remedy is required.

Another route may be to bring a civil action against the States as the children were ultimately in their care.

This would bring the facts out into the open and the burden of proof is lower than a criminal trial.

Someone needs to take legal advice on this

Zoompad said...

"It led with the words of William Bailhache saying the doors of the historic child abuse case will now be closed there will be no more prosecutions."

This William Bailhache is getting to be a bit of a pain in the bum, isn't he?

He's jumping like a ruddy flea to get the doors shut on the child abuse investigation. A bit too jumpy, I reckon, for a man of good concience. What's in HIS closet - skeletons?

Right then, it's about time we put a stop to this William Bailhache's manipulation tactics.

Divide and conquer, that's what they do, that's their nasty little game. They've done it to all of us, they tried to have me thrown into prison, they got Stuart arrested by 10 plods, they come these same tactics every time.

Well, let's give them a good dose of their own medicine! We can pick THEM off one by one - after all, what's good for the goose is also very good for the gander!

Billy boy has obviously got some very dark secrets in his own closet, that he is absolutly petrified of people finding out about. So, what we need to do is to home in on HIS closet, and get the door wrenched open. We have the freedom of information act now, we can foind out all about Billy boy, and why he is so keen to close the door on Haut de la Garenne!

It's about time WE went on the offensive, rather than just defending ourselves! I don't want to be a bloody victim any more - I had 40 years of that - I am mad as hell about institutional child abuse and I want heads to roll for what I suffered, and I expect other survivors feel the same way that I do.

That Bill Bailhache is really starting to annoy me now, he is a ruddy nuisance!

Anonymous said...

Bilgin -v- Turkey

"In these circumstances, the Court considers that these proceedings cannot be regarded as a thorough or effective investigation as required by Article 13 of the Convention and that thereby access to any other available remedies, including a claim for compensation, has also been denied.

Consequently, there has been a violation of Article 13 of the Convention. "

Perhaps we should incorporate Article 125 of the Turkish Constitution into Jersey law:

“All acts or decisions of the authorities are subject to judicial review..."

"The authorities shall be liable to make reparation for all damage caused by their acts or measures.”

Web Guru said...

Two historic abuse cases dropped The BBC News

donchais said...

This has just reduced me to tears.

My thoughts and prayers for the victims and those of you who tried so valiantly to obtain justice.

I am so disgusted.

Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Is the clip of the scum-bag McGuires being door-stepped in France by Panorama on YouTube anywhere?

If not, could someone up-load it?

If Computer Nerd or Web Guru could sort a link to it for us - that would be great.

People will be able to see the revolting spectical of "Big Al" McGuire assulting the camera man - and refusing to even deny the question being put to him - "did you abuse little girls Mr. McGuire?"

Can someone sort it out for us?

Thanks

Stuart

Web Guru said...

Stuart the video you requested on youtube has gone. The message reads "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation."

Anonymous said...

So thats the way it is then Bill?

No more charges = No abuse = No victims = No compensation = Cover up complete!.

Nice one - youve looked out for some mates,saved a few quid and have restored Jerseys' reputation!.

All finished just in time for Phils "retirement".

Its not going to be quite as easy as that Bill.

Anonymous said...

fIRSTLY, THANK GOD I DONT LIVE in Jersey, i would feel unsafe and dirty. it is said " evil wins when good people do nothing"

The great man Martin Luther king siad,


"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.”

Comming from this great man, who paid the ultimate price for his belifs , makes one feel humbled and weak, To the good people of of Jersey ( who i hope are in the majority) i ask you to stand up and find your dignity , and defete the evil that rules your beautiful island, for god sake, for the sake of the victims of abuse,

Senator Syvert: I say to you, that you truly rank along side the likes of this great man, history will remember you when the names of the so called elite will be forgotton in the dust of thier graves. keep going, you wil win. if you want proff of that , as i write this the Bresident of the USA is making an historic speach : you day wil lcome.

People of Jersey, you have the power to change things, before history condems you all.

The Oak

Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A commenter above writes that they will be voting Labour today.

This in responce to my recomendation to vote Green.

There are many decent Labour MPs,Councilors, MEP's etc.

Just as there are Lib-Dems.

And even a few Conservatives.

And - frankly - whilst I'm not condoning the MP's creative approach to their financial claims - the media covergae of the story has become completely disproportionate.

There are issues of far greater, 'real-world' impact on the lives of people and our society - than whther an MP has claimed to have his "moat" cleaned out.

But - the media coverage having been as it was - it's a racing certainty that voters are going to clobber the three main parties.

So - the big issue is - what parties do they vote for instead?

I'm very - very - worried about the posablity of the Nazi BNP picking up those protest votes.

So whilst I would be voting Green in any event - it seems to me that of all the non-mainstream parties, the Greens are the civilised place to put you protest vote.

Far better that - than having the proest vote fragmented - and Nazis getting votes.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

I have a recording of the Panorama program. I will see if I can put the part in question here as soon as I have cut it to size.

Anonymous said...

I feel physically sick at the latest revelations, can someone organise a mass mail out or hand to hand flyering all over the island to gain massive support of all the victims of these hideous crimes.

I am amazed at the number of people I talk to who are totally unaware of what's bubbling away in the background as they only rely on the usual lines of media for the current news.

Its time EVERY decent person knows about the cesspit of local governance and stood up to make their voices heard, both locally and internationally.

Please can someone start some sort of mass information distribution to reveal what's really happening in our Island .

cover-up-jersey said...

Panorama scum-bag McGuires

Anonymous said...

Reading BBC News Jersey can it be assummed by the content that any allegations relating to Lario Mundy have also been dropped?????????

Since when was an appointed Bailiff also appointed to be Judge Jury and Prosecutor of a Crown Dependency.

This is outrageous.

Anonymous said...

The Jury Team has had my EU vote.

As for the local elections, I could not resist spoiling my ballot paper, by unfavourably comparing one of the candidates, who is a friend of the rapist who persecuted me for 7 years with a cockroach!

Zoompad

Anonymous said...

Steve Le Lundy

Grim reaper said...

I understand that money has been put aside to compensate the victims. It's not about the money it's about justice.

Jill Gracia said...

It seems this only warrants a Page 4 article in the Rag, deemed less important than luxury yachts and road checks!!

What's more it is not possible to comment on this 'story'.

Perhaps people's thoughts and disgust on this will hurt the big 'O' far too much.

And people wonder why we need blogs? Herein lies your answer - so we can have OUR say!

Proud Survivor said...

Stuart

I have just voted Green as I always do when there is a candidate. In my opinion it is the only party which consistently shows integrity.

Tut tut, Zoompad you are a very naughty girl spoiling your ballot paper. Cockroach seems quite understated however!

Web Guru said...


Jersey: The Closing Chapter? Sky News



Two cases in the Jersey historic child abuse inquiry were dropped Metro News


Jersey child abuse cases dropped ITV News

Ahimsa said...

"I understand that money has been put aside to compensate the victims. It's not about the money it's about justice."

Exactly! What we want to see is justice for the victims of abuse in Jersey. Nothing less!

We want the people who are alleged to have perpetrated these dreadful crimes against innocent children and youths to be brought to the Courts.

We want the people who are alleged to have shielded the alleged perpetrators of these dreadful crimes to be accountable for their actions. Nothing less!

Jersey men and women have gone to war and fought hard, many have died, for our freedom. The very freedom that is disappearing fast before our eyes. Ours, our children's and our grandchildren's lives will be unbearable if we allow this to carry on.

I appeal to everyone who sympathises to do a letter to all of those people they think can help the cause of the abused. Violence and vigilantism is not the answer it has to be peaceful and from all corners of the world to have an affect.

Put pen to paper and write your hearts out.

Truth Will Out.

Anonymous said...

Thats a point, it was first put out that Maguire could not be charged because he had a terminal illness, someone lied, because he is still alive and kicking, and whoever said that proves that they are a complete low life. Therefore denying child abuse would come easy to low life like them.

Anonymous said...

http://www.thisisjersey.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/stmgena-041-ag-press-statement1.pdf

load of c**p

sorry i have nothing further to add, too angry.

Anonymous said...

Old Le Coin Road?????

Anonymous said...

To the blogger who queried CTV's first news item - yes Bailhache did say the HDLG issue was closed....no doubt a Freudian slip as we peasants are supposed to think that further cases are being reviewed whereas the likelyhood is that the files are collecting dust until another suitable day comes along to bury the news that the cases will be dropped for lack of substance.

Stuart is one of 53 why is it always left to him to stand up for the abused, and be vilified .............WHY?

I concede that since our last elections there has been slightly more support but not enough...and when he has bowed out of politics who will have the tenacity to take his place...................

This travesty of justice must not be allowed .............the government of this island is merely puppetry and that will remain my opinion until such time as justice is seen to be done...........

To the abused ..how do you feel tonight, what have they tried to bribe you with - what price your silence..........STAND UP TO THESE BULLY BOYS becuase the public beleive you.

If it is any comfort at all since you have spoken out the number of paedophiles being prosecuted has risen, orphaned, neglected and abandoned kids in Jersey now stand a better chance of being given the care that they need............

Zoompad said...

"I appeal to everyone who sympathises to do a letter to all of those people they think can help the cause of the abused. Violence and vigilantism is not the answer it has to be peaceful and from all corners of the world to have an affect.

Put pen to paper and write your hearts out."

Exactly. The pen is mightier than the sword!

Jill Gracia said...

'I understand that money has been put aside to compensate the victims. It's not about the money it's about justice.'

This means then that it has been recognised that abuse DID take place. Compensation is paid to right wrongs, so it has obviously been accepted that abuse did take place.

No amount of money could ever compensate the abused - it is justice that they seek and the recognition that those who caused this abuse would be named and shamed and made to pay for their evil, perverted sins.

You have been failed, and failed badly. There are a lot of very angry people now, and this is NOT the end of the saga.

At least CTV and BBC had the 'decency' to make this their headline story. What's your excuse Jersey Establishment Paper?

Anonymous said...

Bill and Ben - the Flowerpot Men.

Phil and Bill - the Cover-up men.

Time to go boys!

Anonymous said...

The real saying is "Spill their guts". The one for tv is "Sing like a proverbial canary"

Web Guru said...

Attorney General Press Statement

Anonymous said...

Fox,and Anthony.

Rob Kent said...

Don't hold your breath...

I wrote to my MP, Celia Barlow, Hove, to sign the Early Day Motion. She replied:

"I have passed on your concerns to Jack Straw, MP, the Justice Secretary, for his comments on this issue and I will contact you once I receive his response."

Wonder why she couldn't just sign it?

Anonymous said...

Bailache and Birt would rather let the Maguires live out the rest of their lives with fear and regret, rather that to let them face a judge and jury and spill their guts.

Anonymous said...

Grim reaper said...
"I understand that money has been put aside to compensate the victims. It's not about the money it's about justice".

I agree 100% - but im also rather confused.

If the states are putting money aside for compensation for victims then-by that rationale-abuse must have taken place.

So what of the bastards that committed the abuse?

The states cant have it both ways-if abuse took place-which i know it did-then why have the abusers not been brought to justice?.

Do ballhaiche and his minions think we are all motivated by money?-whats the going rate for sexually abusing an 11 year old girl at HDLG?.

Its time we all stood together and voiced our disgust at the way survivors of abuse have been treated-what better time and place than when Birt takes over?.

Proud Survivor said...

McGuire managed to get them to drop the charges on the grounds that he "collapsed in court with terminal cancer" Terminal evil more likely. Thankyou to the person who posted the clip about Blanche Pierre and the McGuires. Watching that again made me seethe as before. The young adults whose bodies have been broken by both Jane and Alan McGuire and whose lives have been blighted by that poisonous pair talk with pained dignity about crimes which were witnessed by others including a neighbour and still those two are allowed to escape prosecution. There was plenty of evidence that should have stood up in any court worth the name. If Alan McGuire has terminal cancer he is taking an awful long time dying! The good lifestyle, food and French wine must have cured him!

Ozzy, don't despair- we survivors must stick together and keep pushing. I for one will be writing to Panorama to ask them about the follow-up programme they promised.

This is definitely not over yet!

Anonymous said...

The couple retired in 1990. A letter was written to them by the Island’s authorities thanking them for their “110% commitment and hard work, the proof of which will live on in the children for whom you have shown so much love and care.

Was this written when Iris le Fevre was in charge.

Póló said...

The Irish people as a whole are rising up in anger following the revelations of systemic child abuse in the educational system, particularly as it applies to the religious orders, but also,as soon to be revealed, by parish clergy, and, as not so soon to be revealed, inside the familiy itself.

I hope that the momentum continues to build up and that this revulsion does not run out of steam. The revelations are horrific and the bitterness and calls from the abused/tortured for the prosecution of the perpetrators are completely legitimate and overdue.

The importance of the recent Government report is that the abused/tortured can no longer be ignored. The report provides a context which legitimises their complaints.

All this is, thankfully, spilling over into the political system.

If you have the stomach for it, you can find the report here.

Anonymous said...

The mcguires live very comfortably in a village in the South of France, near a city that carries the same name as a famouse 19th century french artist!

Easy to find them on line in the French telephone data base = yellow pages! I've said enough, the rest is up to you!

Good luck

Anonymous said...

Re: Money put aside to compensate victims!

There has to be a court case and a conviction for there to be a victim! So it looks as if the money or the vast majority of it will stay where it is!

Clever don't you think?

Anonymous said...

Thankyou to the blogger who has confirmed I am not going nuts. When I read Channel TV headlines this morning I was shocked. It reported the Bailiff has now CLOSED the HDLG enquiry and no further prosecutions will be taking place, or words to that effect. When I read it again later it had been changed. It would seem that the Bailiff has indeed decided that no further action will be taken against those who have been accused of Child Abuse.

To you Islanders I would suggest, your Island has been brought into disrepute by your appointed Bailiff your Judicial system is more endemic to the old Russian Polit Bureau. Your island is allready becoming known as a safe haven for child abusers, peodophiles and any other dregs of society who are looking for a safe haven against prosecution.

So those who have suffered, although not believed are going to be paid to "Shut up". You do not pay people unless you think they have been harmed. I would seriously urge all of those who have been offered or accepted any payment to inform Stuart. They are admitting guilt by paying you, you are being bought off so those who have committed these crimes will be able to subject others to the same without fear of retribution.

The Bailiff and his brother are a disgrace to humanity. You have no freedoms these have been taken away. It is time for all of those of Jersey who value their Island, their freedom to demand Justice for all.

I am so very very angry that these people - a man who is being paid by the tax payers to oversee the education of your children has "got away with it" It is time for parents, granparents, young people to DEMAND Justice and DEMAND that the Bailiff his brother and the Deputy are removed from Office.

Your Bailiff swore in a sex offender to Police your community, this Police officer abused your children, how many others in high places have done the same. For the sake of your children start demonstrating NOW

Anonymous said...

i am so disgusted with all this,its jersey bullocks!!!! what are they hiding!! no excuse what so ever for them just to get away with all the life hurt and pain these people have been put through,it must have been horrifing going through what they did back then,but to go throu it all over again to be told they are not going to get charge makes me sick!!!! how many more of these scums are walking around free!!!

Anonymous said...

COME TO LIFE ENRICHING JERSEY

A safe haven for paedophiles.

MARIO LE FEUVRE said...

IRIS LUNDY

Anonymous said...

PLANET JERSEY,
will never be taken seriously ever again, with absolutely no mention of the abuse inquiry.
Shows them up for what they are. I for one will never make a comment on the oligarchy site ever again.

Anonymous said...

Let's see if I can remember the facts.

Simon Bellwood, an experienced and senior social worker, approaches Stuart Syvret to warn him of the abusive "Grand prix" system being used to punish children at Greenfields childrens home.

Simon Bellwood was sacked by the States.

Stuart spoke out in the States condemning the abusive practices being used by States employees. Stuart contacted the Howard league for penal reform and professor June Thorburn to investigate the charges.

Stuart was sacked as health minister.

Both reports (and another commissioned by the states) decided that the Grand prix punishments were illegal.

During this time, unknown to anyone outside of the police dept, Lenny Harper was leading an investigation into allegations of years of child abuse within the islands childrens services.
Through these investigations and then a public appeal for any more information over 160 people came forward claiming to have suffered abuse.

Police investigations led to the search and excavation of Haut de la Garenne, a former childrens home, where charred human remains, unexplainable lime pits and dozens of childrens teeth (some with the complete root structure attached) were discovered.
Lenny Harper brought in forensic experts and additional police from the UK and conducted the investigation under regular guidance from the Association of chief police officers.
The investigation found a number of people they wished to charge with crimes against children.

But now Lenny Harper has retired, his superior officer has been suspended for allegedly mishandling the case and now we are told that there is no evidence for a prosecution.


Please feel free to copy this and send it to any news source you like and ask them if they think it looks suspicious.

Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Compensation for the survivors.

No. I'm sorry - but you have it completely wrong when you say that no convictions of abusers equals no compensation for survivors.

I know that this line has been fed to some survivors by the establishment - and even their own lawyers in some cases - but it's rubbish.

If you have suffered wrong - as the survivors have - and, in this case, suffered wrong through the direct mendacity, incompetence and malfeasance of a public authority such as the States of Jersey - then you can sue the hell out of them.

Being justified in seeking and claiming a shed load of compensation does NOT depend upon criminal convictions having been achieved first.

It is the States of Jersey who will be sued - for failing in its clear legal duty to protect vulnerable children in their care.

And the States of Jersey don't have a leg to stand on.

Guilty.

Guilty as hell.

I know many survivors, and I know money can never compensate for what they've suffered, and what they wanted was to see their abusers - and those who concealed the abuse - sent to jail.

Until we make Straw - or whoever shortly succeeds him - fulfil his duties and replace the shysters in the Jersey prosecution and judicial systems with decent people - prosecutions are unlikely.

But that doesn't stop heavy compensation claims from being made.

I'll write about this in more detail in a substantive post.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

IRIS LE FEUVRE

Anonymous said...

"Easy to find them on line in the French telephone data base = yellow pages! I've said enough, the rest is up to you! "

Hmm you wouldn't be trying to implicate this blog as being complicit with vigilanti acts would you?

As bad as they may be any action outside of the law will turn these people into victims. Who may then be protected by authorities.
Call the gendarmes and warn them of the Mcguires crimes maybe they could do something there.

Anonymous said...

Leave PJ well alone, it isn't worth the hassle. They ban those who speak up about what is going on over here.

Another good reason not to bother is that stupid troll always appears on it under new disguises which are so see through its a joke.

The mods are quite happy for this clown to carry on so let him do all the posting on his own. He can then argue against himself.

I would just let these idiots get on with making a fool of the establishment themselves.

Anonymous said...

Broken bones and bleach down the throat = no evidence????

Thanks lads for effing up our beautiful island....IDIOTS!!!

What was so great about the scum-bag McGuires that all this effort has been made to conceal their crimes???

I wish Iris Le Feve was intelligent enough to use the Internet, then she could read all this.

Anonymous said...

The political comedian Mark Thomas is currently leading a campaign against Jersey's tax avoidance industry.
I think this fine example of the independence and rigour of our legal system will be very useful to his case.
Are the Ballaches in fact playing a very deep game to bring the island down?
Maybe the police should raid their homes and look for Trotskyist pamphlets.

Anonymous said...

Spot the difference,

A 12 grand fine for filling out some forms to enable the housebound to vote.

A pension and a letter of thanks after abusing children for years and charges pending.

Anonymous said...

Well what a surprise the rag doesn't allow comments to be made on the AG's decisions in the child abuse cases, I wonder why?

Anonymous said...

So a terminally ill person is alive and well 10 years later?

I would have to say that someone has had the wool pulled over their eyes haven't they?

Anonymous said...

jersey justice ha ha. no such thing in this corrupt island.it shall all come out in the end. the truth shall come out mr a.g an your hired thugs will all topple and so shall you.admit you are in the wrong and come clean and stop your god damn lies. birt and your brother are as bad as the beasts who commit these crimes. hope the guilt torments you .you heartless ,spinless,cowardly xxxx,s . we the survivers laugh at your expense, we survivers shall whack you out of your pymrid of corruption and make this island a truly better place.come on the real people . nanny state is what you want, tough shit a.g and your crew. out numberd now with the real people and the genral public who know what you and your crew are all about.resigne and do that you really clever man. enjoy the ride a.g ha ha ha ha

Anonymous said...

Danny Lundy said
Mario le Feuvre is getting very Wherry of all this child abuse saga “why cant it all be brushed under the carpet like in the good old days”


Does the Iris
bloom in April or May?

jkh said...

Stuart

I am lost for words at your latest post and feel very sad for the victims.

I'm so pleased that they have you on their side and you are doing what you can to support them and provide a space for them to tell you how they feel. It's important that they have someone like you who believes them and is willing to take a stand on their behalf. You are a very trustworthy and heroic man and I admire you.

If only the world was full of Stuart Syvrets, it would be a much safer place.

God bless you and the people you are supporting.

Anonymous said...

The British Government sent police, judge and jury thousands of miles to the Pitcairn Islands to prosecute abusers..........to the eye the inhabitants there appeared more primative than we Jersey folk.

We in comparison appear civilised we have a judiciary and police force in place that to the eye appears pukka.

Lenny Harper came to this outpost and encountered 'The Jersey Way', he being a fairminded person practiced the theory that no one is above the law and went about weeding out corrupt police practices, this did not go down at all well, hence the Ferguson/Egre debacle.

We now need a Lenny Harper type that will come into this island and clean up - or at least attempt to clean up - the AG's office.

Given the circumstances surrounding the Maguires they should have ben goven their day in court to clear their names, Birt should be man enough to stand by his earlier decision.

This recent turn of events is an arrogant display from the AG and relies on the peasants just taking their medicine.

If the British government can send officials to Pitcairn then I suggest that they send some here and quick!

Anonymous said...

I shouldn't laugh really, however looking at Channelonline news headlines, Stuart Syvret charged for not having a driving licence actually made me smile, sorry. Have they really got nothing better to report, is this really the news that everyone wants to wake up to, what a crap media Jersey has.

The fact that the McGuires "have got away with Torture" the fact that they lied in court "terminally ill" and ten years later enjoying the ambience of France is of no significance.

The fact that Jersey is now being marketed as an island who condones child abuse, a haven for peodophiles, an island where money talks.

What a corrupt, sad, media reflection of decent, honest people and on a Senator who is devoting his life in seeking Justice for survivors. It seems you are more accountable on Jersey for failing to renew your driving licence - child abusers, paid by the tax payer are above the law. What a sad sad place.

Fleet Abblett said...

If the establishment are trying to cover up the past abuses because it would mean admitting to mistakes in the past, sure it would be LESS embarrassing to the island to be seen to be doing the right thing at last?

It would impress far more people if they showed the world how well run this place could be.

It's admirable to honestly own up to previous failures and demonstrate a willingness to change for the better.

Anonymous said...

Pitcairn, Carteret, Trinity & Jersey politics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Carteret

Circles within circles.

Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Yes - what I quote here is Rankine Television's absolutely top, lead, story.

"Senator Stuart Syvret charged.

Senator Stuart Syvret has been charged with not having an up to date driving licence.

He's due to appear in court later this month."

Never mind child torturers, child rapists, or those who have concealed child abuse for decades.

Oh no.

Jersey's greatest and most news-worthy criminal is Stuart Syvret - for committing the atrocity of forgetting to renew his driving licence.

It is actually pretty funny. This kind of absurdity often enlivens my day.

Do you reckon the CTV hacks are pleased with themselves?

Such an awesome lead story - uncovered by their crack-team of investigative reporters - by reading it on the Internet - where it's been discussed for weeks already - because Dan Murphy told loads of people about it.

Just take it as a reminder if you ever think I'm too harsh on the Jersey media.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Senator Stuart Syvret charged :

Senator Stuart Syvret has been charged with not having an up to date driving licence.

He's due to appear in court later this month.

That's it! Wow, such in depth reporting!

Senator Stuart Syvret said...

And - lead ietm, no less!

Fame at last!

Stuart

TonyTheProf said...

From Citizens Advice:

Failure to notify the parish of change of name/address within a reasonable time is an offence carrying a maximum fine of £500

From States Legislation Website

All drivers except mere visitors to obtain local driving licence before driving in Jersey—no concessionary period before applying for licence and ignorance of law no defence: Att. Gen. v. Muir

Offences in respect of which there is no power to levy fines summarily

Article 4(1) – driving without a licence or employing unlicensed driver;

voiceforchildren said...

Stuart.

I am hoping to publish the entire Press conference on VFC. Your readers will do well to keep note of what the mainstream media feel is newsworthy of the Press conference.

I don't want to be unfairly critical of them too early, but the footage I have would generate many different headlines for a long time to come.

Perhaps they are busy researching before they release some of the more damning (for our Oligarchy, among others) Headline stories.

How, with all the material they have got from yesterday, they can lead with a story about you and your driving licence is baffling. But like I said perhaps they are researching the facts of yesterday's revelations before publishing/broadcasting anything.
we shall see!

Anonymous said...

...and how did they come by the evidence of this terrible crime?

Oh yes, while searching for evidence relating to an arrest for an alleged data protection offence under Art 29 PPCE Law.

The law which only allows a search to the extent that is reasonably required for the purpose of discovering any evidence relating to his arrest (DP)

The law which is not to be used 'willy nilly' as a fishing expedition (c Senator Le Marquand).

It strikes me as obvious that the police were scraping the barrel to find evidence of data protection breaches to have their attention drawn to your driving licence.

Surely Minty would have said 'come on boys, we are only looking for evidence of data protection breaches, nothing else'... surely?

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...

Senator Stuart Syvret charged :

Senator Stuart Syvret has been charged with not having an up to date driving licence.

He's due to appear in court later this month."

With this and the Tadier "sleepergate" scandal our local media are really showing their true worth.

Let's hope none of the old boys ever get caught with overdue library books.

Anonymous said...

The JEP Editorial 5th June is beyond contempt - I will offer a more substantive comment when I have calmed down...

Senator Stuart Syvret said...

The Rag editorial.

haven't seen it - but I could probably guess the gist of it.

They won't put it on their web-site for a few hours yet - does someone want to scan it, or find some other way of sending it in as a comment?

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Here you are Stuart:

http://guiton.inewspaper.co.uk/pdfindex/Jersey/EveningPost/090605/jepipage010090605.pdf

By the way, this really is quite an act of subterfuge. I believe people should pay for the pdf version of the JEP but you can read it every day this way should you so wish and for the princely sum of absolutely nothing.

All you have to do is change the two date fields in the address, i.e. 090605 to the appropriate date (for reference, tomorrow's would be 090606). The numbers '010' immediately in front of the second '090605' refer to page numbers so, to read the front page you would enter 001 etc.

But remember, I didn't tell you to do it.

Zoompad said...

"Your readers will do well to keep note of what the mainstream media feel is newsworthy of the Press conference."

Don't worry, we have got our beady eyes on them.

The BBC in the UK don't seem very motivated to tell the news in the unbiased political manner that they are pledged to. Any whiff of institutional child abuse is treated like leprosy, but they will spend weeks on domestic abusers, and even plaster their kids faces all over the screen - so much for that blunt old excuse they always chant in institutional abuse cases, "cofidentiality in the best interests of the child"

The BBC might as well not have any quidelines, because they duck and dive all over and around them, and never in the public interest, but always to cover up for their cronies.

Anonymous said...

The untouchables

rose said...

with the decision taken by our legal systhem it is now time to be calling for a commission of inquire in to child abuse thought out the whole island as did the Irish goverment did for this to be open we had lenny harper say on radio this morning that if the cases would be in the UK they would have go to court .
What Mr Bailhache say on the JEP he have taken advice from the UK legal systhem before making his decision ,why again is there two opinons to mudded the water .
my opinon is what about the victims and how they feel about the whole thing .
rose

Anonymous said...

Today's Editorial

href="http://guiton.inewspaper.co.uk/pdfindex/Jersey/EveningPost/090605/jepipage010090605.pdf"

Anonymous said...

Lack of evidence does not bother you lot does it?

Pathetic

Try reading what the AG had to say.

Sanity exists but not here I am afraid

Anonymous said...

[URL]http://www.thisisjersey.com/2009/06/05/realism-and-justice/[/URL]

Have Your Say

Senator Stuart Syvret said...

There is no lack of evidence.

Sufficient evidence exists to convict Jane and Alan McGuire - let alone sufficient evidence to merely mount a prosecution.

I know that evidence.

When William Bailhache - like Michale Birt before him - asserts that there was "insufficient evidence" - both men are simply lying.

Bailhache and Birt.

Liars.

Both.

And if they care to contest that fact - I look forward to seeing them in court.

Stuart

Ahimsa said...

Quote from above:"Pathetic

Try reading what the AG had to say."

In answer:

We have read and heard for many, many years, please forgive us if we don't believe anymore!

No smoke without fire!

Truth Will Out

Jill Gracia said...

The Rag have really plumbed the depths tonight with their editorial comment.

Below is my comment posted in response to this, which I doubt they will print in its entirety, if at all.


'I am told that, last year, the Attorney General’s lawyer informed the Police that he was “only a day and a half away from completing indictments on [the couple].”

My source questions: “How did that become ‘no evidence’?”'

Quote from Sky News report yesterday on yesterday's news.

So.......what has changed since then? Have you bothered, as the only newspaper in Jersey to find out, because an awful lot of people would like to know.

I personally find this evening's editorial comment quite contemptible, and only serves to show even more how much in the Establishments pockets you are.

'Realism and Justice' was your header - really!
No justice and you are certainly not being realistic. Have you any concept as to how the abuse survivors felt yesterday, only to have to read this tonight.

Shame on you!

In case you choose not print/or edit this comment I am copying to Stuart Syvret's blog. After all you denied us the right to comment on this issue yesterday.

Tony Gallichan said...

in case the rag doesn't pop this up, a reply to their comment...

Another dig at Lenny Harper - the honest cop replaced by the dishonest puppets. I’m very much afraidf there’s going to be bloodshed over this. The people of Jersey are angry enough. Folks are already trying to track down a certain couple in France. And a certain education officer isn’t safe walking the streets. This is not me making threats, I assure you. It’s me expressing concern. The law, so carefully abused by the AG and his friends, is about to be removed from them and taken into public hands. This is not how things should be. What fools the Jersey establishment are to think they can get away with doing something like this and not have major repercussions…

Anonymous said...

I have just tried that link that someone posted and it does not work.
Don't you just hate that !!!!!!
I love free stuff ..

Anonymous said...

You tell them Stuart. The dirty evil perverts.

Anonymous said...

JERSEY EVENING POST - THE HEART OF ISLAND LIFE!!

FACT - NO HEART, AND HALF TRUTHS.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, I screwed up the HTML for the link
Today's editorial

Anonymous said...

You say you know that there is enough evidence to try and convict the Mcguires Stuart-so what about Wherry?.

I know for a fact that leading members of the police investigators
are convinced hes guilty of child abuse-are you of the same mind about his evidence,or lack of it?.

Anonymous said...

I don't want Birt as the new Bailiff. I met him once on the Ecrehoes and I found him arrogant and rude.

i'd prefer an ordinary person taking on the role and I'm sure that would be far more agreeable for the majority of the public.

Or why not a decent, popular and trustworthy person such as Mike Stentiford. Why does it always go to hob-nobs like Birt and Baillache. So what if they studied law. Surely a handbook outlining the role could be written up for the lay person to follow. The job isn't rocket science, it just needs someone who is fair and not corrupt doing it...not like these toffee noses.

Jill Gracia said...

Well, mine has been printed but WELL edited.

Yours is there Tony G, but also edited.

We may have been better putting it in plain English like comment No3 on there which is simply 'Cobblers' -

Obviously they agree with that!

Pour Les Contres said...

Well said Tony Gallichan, I think we're all angry & ready for a return to law & order.

Anonymous said...

The rags editorial in todays edition is repulsive, and Bright dares to put his name to it.
rag editor:Chris Bright...SHAME ON YOU!!!
Definition of editorial:Article expressing the opinions of the editor or publishers of a newspaper. The Jersey Evening Post...SHAME ON YOU!!!

voiceforchildren said...

Stuart.

My have "Have Your Say" on that fine informative journalistic master piece that is the Jersey Evening Post, that is at the heart of the island.

"You FILTHY, FILTHY, FILTHY, RAG! Have you any idea what you are doing to these poor abuse survivors?

Have you seen all the evidence involving these cases? or are you just taking the AG's word for it? you really are a FILTHY, FILTHY RAG. There's no other words to describe you............FILTHY FILTHY RAG".

They'll not publish it for obvious reasons but I believe it is important to let them know how much anger and resentment they create.

Anonymous said...

JEP have your say, how do I see what is being said, I am getting very frustrated and admit to ignorance with computers. Please give me a step by step guide on how to view comments as I have a few words to say too!! So far I have gone onto the site "thisisjersey" but cannot find any comments. Please help!!

Anonymous said...

I havent read all of the posts yet so maybe there is already an answer to this question, but how on earth can you go to court and collapse because of cancer. As far as i know cancer is in the body and not in the mind (brain cancer perhaps excluded). So how does a person manage to get to court then collapse through cancer?

Surely if their "cancer" was brain cancer they wouldnt have gone in the first place and if it was that bad in their body they couldnt have gone either. I am not demeening cancer victims I am just amazed that a court appearance can somehow make cancer worse than it already is!

Anonymous said...

Oh by the way, I forgot to mention that the general local of where Mr & Mrs M. child abuser are in the south of France, was leaked by someone working for the BBC!

Just thought you may be interested!

Pehaps those of us who seek justice should indeed contact the French authorities...it will not be difficult as the French are having a purge on those who abuse children!

Contact me if you want as i may be able to help?

vatican1@rocketmail.com

Anonymous said...

At least Bright's opinion is getting out to less and less people as the weeks go by.

Still only 45p... You wouldnt dare put it up!

Anonymous said...

I can understand the fury of all of the abused of Jersey being undermined by the Bailiff.

However is it just possible, if any one of those who suffered at the hands of the McGuires, who may live in the UK request a Civil Action be taken in the UK Courts. Anyone can take out a civil action against someone they have complaint. Since they have disclosed their abuse to the Jersey Police who have passed to the Bailiff who says there is no case to answer perhaps they could start suing the Bailiff for his further abuse by failing them the right to seek Justice through the Jersey Courts. He has contravened their rights by failing to give them a fair trial against the abusers.

Sorry if this sounds garbled, however I am just trying to find ways for the Bailiff to be held accountable and the McGuires.

I am not sure whether the DPP could be requested to look at the cases. It seems most odd that the Bailiff has taken the word of their son and the fact that the case was halted because of terminal illness when ten years down the line the offender is alive and kicking and living a charmed life in France at the expense of the Jersey tax payers.

You are paying for these torcherers to live a charmed life.

The real question is Why is the Bailiff protecting these people who have brought disgrace to your island, ruined lives and are suffering even more by his gross failure to prosecute.

Anonymous said...

Stuart

Comment left on JEP editorial, probably wont be posted

"Unbelievable, how can the JEP support this nonsense. Why is one man in the form of the AG allowed to use his own value system and prejudices to be judge and jury without any resort to appeal by those who believe they have a grievance.

2009? - more like a 1409 medieval society where those in power believe they are vested with infallible divine wisdom."

Anonymous said...

Change your approach (and editor) and you would be able to put the price down.

Anonymous said...

I would like to make two comments in one hope you are ok with that.

The first, I am afraid to say is that as a states member you should know that your driving license needs updating and should be setting an example. Sorry but its true. On the otherhand I do think it is ridiculous that we need to update them as we still live in Jersey and having recently moved parishes I havent done mine yet, please dont chase down my IP address because of this, still my point is you should be setting an example.

My second comment is to the person who posted that they would not feel safe in Jersey. And my answer to that is that if I read the news everyday and live my life based upon that then nowhere is safe so stop trying to single out Jersey. Whilst I agree the latest news is a disgrace we are still safe from random stabbings in the street, burglaries resulting in car chases, drive by shootings etc etc so stop trying to portray Jersey as a place you are scred to go to as you know it is not true.

By the way is anyone actually surprised by the latest news? It was always on the cards to try to bury it somehow and when i watched panorama i imagined i could smell the stench of their guilt from the back of my tv. F ing disgrace

Anonymous said...

Stuart

Another comment I've put on the JEP site that may never see the light of day in the rag

"This is an appalling state of affairs, why has Mr Day never officially been given an opportunity to put his side of the story?

He is a well respected member of our community who has given great service to women on the island for many many years, witness the letters of support that have been written on his behalf in this paper.

So what is really going on here?

Who is being protected by Mr Day's scapegoating, what is the truth of what happened that fateful day in October 2007?

Will we ever know or will all be concealed and swept under the ever expanding carpet that is smothering Jersey?

Póló said...

I don't wish to cause distress to any of your readers, but I thought this video clip might reassure some people that truth will out and that there is a place for righteous anger.

It is a recent extract from Irish TV's version of questions and answers, when the Ryan Report on child abuse was being discussed. By way of background, Fianna Fáil is the dominant Irish political party (in power for 80% of the last 50 years), and the (Cabinet) Minister on the panel is a senior and contentious person, reduced to silence in this clip.

Righteous Anger

On a lighter note, I recall that I got my first driving licence while on a working holiday in Jersey. The people with whom I was staying (Page family, in Bellevue, St. John) said they would teach me to drive, but I had no driving licence. I wrote to my mother in Dublin and she went to the licencing office, paid £1, and sent me the licence, which entitled me to drive virtually anything as long as it was not for hire and reward.

My licence is still in date, though the more extreme vehicles, which I had been entiled to drive, have been removed over the years. And just for the record, I have not yet done a driving test. Touch wood.

Stuart, keep up the good work.

Anonymous said...

Stuart
I wouldn't worry about being charged for the henious crime of non renewal of your driving licence.....
Angela Body (Director of Surgery) was fined for no motor insurance.
Her criminal record was no barrier to her promotion.

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