IRIS LE FEUVRE:
A JERSEY OLIGARCHY MONSTER.
The Official Response of the States of Jersey
Upon Learning of a Decade of Child Torture.
This is a very brief post – as its core subject matter is self-explanatory.
Very self-explanatory.
I reproduce below a vomit-inducing letter of “thanks” to the McGuires, written by the then President of the Jersey Education Committee – one Iris Le Feuvre.
Until 2005, Jersey had a Committee system of government, as opposed to a Ministerial system. And, until the late 1990’s, child protection responsibilities lay with the Education Committee, of which Iris Le Feuvre, a States member at that time, was the political boss.
After 10 years of child-torturing, the activities of the McGuires became too problematic – even for such scum-buckets as Anton Skinner, Geoff Spencer, and Marnie Baudains to carry on ignoring.
So in 1990, with reluctance they carried out an “internal” investigation into the matter – during which many of the McGuires’ atrocities were so well-evidenced and exposed as to transcend continuing disguise.
Iris Le Feuvre and her Education Committee received the resultant – albeit utterly lame and inadequate report – which had been authored by Skinner and the child rapist Geoff Spencer – and they decided the best way to avoid embarrassment all-round was to let Jane McGuire “retire” from running the Blanche Pierre group-home at Le Squez – and, instead, move to working in the ‘Family Development Centre'.
Le Feuvre, Skinner, Spencer and Baudains failed to inform the police of the abuses they had been forced to confront. Instead the police only discovered the abuses eight years later – purely by happenstance.
And even though they tried to prosecute in 1998 – the atrocities were covered up then, in 1998 – by the child rapist Danny Wherry – and the child abuse concealer, Michael Birt.
But – eight years earlier – back in 1990 – the typical Jersey oligarchy ethical bankruptcy, arrogance, self-interest and hubris prevailed on the first occasion of betrayal.
And - for spending 10 years torturing, abusing and sexually molesting little children – the McGuires were rewarded with the following letter – from Iris Le Feuvre.
Read it and weep.
Stuart.
Iris Le Feuvre
President, Education Committee
Our Ref: ILEF/SJR/G.H
26th July 1990
Mr. & Mrs A. Maguire
Flat 4, 80 St. Marks Road
St. Helier
Jersey
Dear Mr & Mrs Maguire
On Wednesday the 25th July, 1990, the Education Committee was officially informed of your decision to retire as house parents of the group home, Le Squez.
The Committee recalled that you have been house parents to the children of the group home since 1980 and during the past ten years had cared for many children on our behalf.
Several members of the Committee, including myself, were already familiar with your excellent work during this time having served on the Children’s Sub-Committee, and have always been impressed with your total commitment to the children in your charge.
It is therefore with regret that we learn of your retirement. Although we fully appreciate that after ten years of extremely hard work for our children a change of direction and a rest from the 24 hour-a-day commitment you have shown over all these years was well deserved.
My Committee therefore asked that I write on behalf of every member to thank you for your many years of excellent service on behalf of the children in your charge and to wish you all the very best for your future. We were delighted to learn that Mrs. Maguire will continue to work for the Committee in our developing Family Centre service and therefore would not be losing your services all together.
Once again many thanks for your 110% commitment and hard work, the proof of which will live on in the children for whom you have shown much love and care.
All best wishes
Yours sincerely
J. M. Le Feuvre
President, Education Committee.
Sunday, 7 June 2009
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She is seriously deluded. Stupid cow.
"the proof of which will live on in the children for whom you have shown much love and care."
Well perhaps not in the way it was meant but poignant in the extreme.
The question is who drafted the letter?
Once again, the survivors have had their noses rubbed in it again. Disgusting!!!
Yet it seems the Jersey theme of child/youth cruelty and torture continues to the present day.
I'll explain:
Saturdays JEP publication, page 10, the St Helier Boat Owners Assoc Chairman, Mr Mike Stevens, recomends the re-introduction of the birch, when dealing with youths/vandalism. Read it for yourselves (could someone post the link for it?)
For your information, this "gentleman" is an Hononary Police Officer, St Martins. And has been for quite a while.
So we have seen in print, what the "old jersey boy way" is. Have the authorities not learnt a thing???
Incidently, i know that he played a low level role in the investigation of HDLG, directing traffic etc....
But now we know what he is truely capable of......A Police Officer, paid or unpaid should not be condoning corporal punishment. Its another case of imbalance of power and a flagrant abuse of authority. I think he should resign?!?
Haven't you had problems recently Stuart with the Honorary system????
No more weeping from me, just a lot of praying that these aholes quickly get justice, and the Jersey survivors get justice as well.
Somehow I think the Jersey survivors will enjoy theirs much more than these ignorant heartless arrogant cretins!
Anton Skinner employed another paedophile at Overdale.
This man used Skinner and Tomkinson's computers to download his filth.
Skinner also sent a pornographic image via email to other senior members of the health service one particular Christmas. He was protesting about having to do the on-call service.
Not one member of the senior team raised any complaint about this image.
Stu what gives??
Ive tried umpteen times to get so called "heavyweight" journalists in the UK media to show some interest in this incredible scandal and I havent had a sniff!.
I dont know mate...I mean whats not to be concerned about and do a story?-even a few lines after page 3 of the sun would be a start.
Its got a hellish cocktail for any half decent scribbler-child abuse,political cover-ups,bent coppers,mass murdering nurse failed government,abuse of power and failed justice!.
Im getting so frustrated that no-one in the uk gives a **** whats happening here mate.
Wheres esther rantzen-she soon did one?.
Well what do you expect in an unregulated service.
Sadly nothing has changed since these evil people were removed
How many staff working in children's services have been police checked.
Do our world class services bother to check long standing staff.
Any one enlighten us on this
Iris Le Feuvre is a retired politician way past her sell by date. Let us hope she never returns to public life, she let the island down.
She is not the only one.
Since 2007 what has happened
We have been told no child is at risk in Jersey. This requires an acceptance that the recent court ruling didn't happen.
We have been told by police officers that Lenny Harper overstated evidence.
We have been told by the AG that the Mcguires will not be prosecuted.
We have been told that HDLG cases have been dropped - so the witnesses are obviously lying
We have a new Bailiff up to his neck in past cases and poor decision making. Please will somebody in the UK remove this gangster from office
We have an AG who not only acts like a thug but also behaves like a thug (albeit in a suit). Is he being groomed for the next Bailiff post after Birt - since when did this office become heriditary and run in families?
We have a retiring Bailiff who has encouraged, supported and made decisions which beggar belief.
He will no doubt enjoy a public pension that has no doubt been inflated to help him move out of office.
We have a bunch of politicians who are silent.
We have a police force that cannot arrest the Mcguires or speak to them but can enmasse arrest a politician for data protection breaches. Illegally search his premises and use information found to suit their masters' bidding
The new harrassment law will no doubt be abused by these corrupt selfserving mandarians to further oppress freedom of speech and expression.
No talk of Freedom of Information - it would be nice to see how the AG came to his most recent decision and who he discussed the case with. Bet he kept his discussions local
There was a significant delay (more than usual) after Sir Philip become Bailiff and before getting his K. And in Guernsey, Geoffrey Rowland has never been knighted. To knight a Jersey Bailiff while leaving Guernsey out would provoke some very sharp and justifiable protests. So either Geoffrey Rowland will get a K as well, or the UK will in fact now drop the whole automatic right of Bailiffs to get a knighthood; I'd bet on the latter.
Can't she use the same excuse as you. Just a simple carpenter!
Not my fault sir, i'm just the political figurehead. Put all the blam on the civil servants. You dodged a bullet with this when you were heas of H&SS.
The Syvret Way - One rule for you and another rule for Sir Stuart.
Not that you would be doing this for the acclaim, oh no, not you.
Give us a a break, you've been rumbled, again !!
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She is seriously deluded. Stupid cow.
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Stupid is not the word I would use, she has got far more out of being a member of the click than Stuart has by fighting for justice for those who have been abused.
For example: I remember seeing this woman getting retrospective planning permission after building on her land?
I can also remember a certain high up Jersey Politician Major John Riley who was let of from being prosecuted for being drunk in Charge of his car, and he was head of the defence committee at the time. (This was reported on in the JEP.)
Obviously Stuart you need to join the click and all and any charges for anything against you will be dropped.
This is soo Obscene, yet they just get away with it. But then it is The Jersey Way and if one rocks the boat you will pay dearly for doing so, you will have a black mark against your name here for the rest of your life, no one can tell me that crime doesn't pay in Jersey if your face fits, the fact is that being honest,and having integritary and morels will go against you in this island.
It appears to me that doing the right thing in this cesspit of curruption is the one thing that will land you in the s**t.
I for one an sick of it to the pit of my stomach.
I'm just as ill reading the Stuart.
I'm also sick over the fact that the MSM is totally ignoring this story.
Stuart.
Didn't Iris Le feuvre nominate Mike Vibert at the last senatorials?
Here is a little piece taken from The Guardian online which will give you the measure of the woman.
The guardians of the Jersey Way continue to thrive, such as the sprightly Iris Le Feuvre, elected to the States Assembly for almost 20 years, who as president of the education committee oversaw Haut de la Garenne, Les Chenes and Blanche Pierre during some of their most troubled times. Now retired, the 80-year-old, whose husband Eric was for years a hobby bobby, lives in St Lawrence parish. "Granny's coming," she shouts as an over-excitable Tibetan spaniel barks at the gate, and ushers us into her front room. Le Feuvre, who collected an MBE from Buckingham Palace in 2002, says of Haut de la Garenne: "It's been a terrible business. But mostly I feel for William and Sir Philip Bailhache. They've been through so much."
But what of the victims? She smiles: "Oh, such a fuss has been made. My father always used a belt on me. It did me the world of good."
Not forgetting the fact that they were allowed to take with them and foster a child that they went on abuseing and also taking this child away from her own siblings,so there own daughter would have a playmate!!
"But what of the victims? She smiles: "Oh, such a fuss has been made. My father always used a belt on me. It did me the world of good."
Did he also drag her around by her hair and ears? Did he drug her and rape her on a regular basis? Did he allow other people to do the same in frightening and unfamiliar surroundings? Was she an abandoned child who was in her father's care because no one else wanted her or cared about her since birth? I thnk not.
She has no understanding at all of what people have been through. Stupid cow - no? Deluded and obscene - yes!
"My father always used a belt on me. It did me the world of good."
Those fatherly thrashings seem to have caused this lady to become extremely stupid and hard hearted.
Thrashing kids seems to me to be a really lazy way of disciplining them. If you want children to grow up to be the sort of people who will treat other people with respect and courtesy, then you're not really going to achieve that purpose if you are forever bawling at them and belting them. It strikes me that Iris Le Feuvre is a prime example of parental "dicipline" gone badly wrong.
"Saturdays JEP publication, page 10, the St Helier Boat Owners Assoc Chairman, Mr Mike Stevens, recomends the re-introduction of the birch, when dealing with youths/vandalism."
I actually think that the re-introduction of the birch is a pretty good idea. NOT for use on young offenders though, but reserved for institutional child abusers and those who choose to defend them, no matter what red robe or horsehair wig they may have in their closet.
I think people who conspire to steal and abuse other people's children deserve to be publicly humiliated and flogged.
'It is therefore with regret that we learn of your retirement. Although we fully appreciate that after ten years of extremely hard work for our children a change of direction and a rest from the 24 hour-a-day commitment you have shown over all these years was well deserved.'
COMMITTMENT!! - to what? Abusing and damaging children's lives for ever. A legacy of cruelty.
And as a reward you get a letter of thanks and a nice little life style 'en France' on the back of the Jersey taxpayer!!
Well that says it all. This Island truly STINKS.
Iris Le Feuvre, you should be ashamed.
Isn't it a bit strange how two other election candidates (besides the JDA 2) were let off their breaches of the election law because in each case it was a "single honest mistake"?
Why doesn't that apply to Stuart's driving licence?
Always wary of witch hunt bandwagons, i have to ask,was she aware of the accusations against the Maguires when she wrote that awful letter. Stuart Syvret of all people is well aware how the head of a department can be kept in the dark by their minions.
Is nobody in Jersey going to organise a public protest over this whole sorry affair?
I live in Guernsey so it isn't realistically possible for me to do it, but I would come over to Jersey to support it if one were organised.
It's one thing having dozens, or even hundreds, of people posting on blogs and websites, but that isn't going to have much of an effect on the mainstream media is it?
Whereas an organised protest, attended by hundreds (which I would hope it would be) could simply not be ignored by TV/radio/newspapers. Particularly if all of the nationals were informed beforehand, I'm sure some of them would be interested. Plus maybe the odd high profile protester (Esther Rantzen etc) would also be prepared to attend, this simply can't be allowed to fizzle out and die, which is what I fear will happen if the only action taken is on the internet.
Harassment
"Isn't it a bit strange how two other election candidates (besides the JDA 2) were let off their breaches of the election law because in each case it was a "single honest mistake"?
Why doesn't that apply to Stuart's driving licence?"
It's Stuart's own fault for refusing to do the funny handshake and other gyrations!
It is said in a comment above, “can’t she just use the same excuse as me – etc.”
Another commenter asks the question “was she aware of the accusations against the McGuires”.
I’m grateful for both questions – especially the one from our old acquaintance Jon Howarth – which accuses me of having one rule for everyone else and one rule for me.
As it happens – yes, Le Feuvre was aware of many of the allegations against the McGuires – not all, I accept – but many of them. Certainly more than a sufficient degree of knowledge to recognise what had taken place for the criminal abuse that it was – and at least inform the police.
The fundamental difference between Le Feuvre and me is this:
When she became aware of monstrous child protection failures by the department she had political responsibility for – her reaction was to go along with the civil servant’s cover-up.
When I became aware of monstrous child protection failures by the department I had political responsibility for - my reaction was to covertly set about investigating the issues – discovering more and more disasters – engage in the task of compiling a detailed dossier of evidence to give to the police – and to become the first ever States member to state publicly and honestly that Jersey’s child protection systems were a disaster-zone and I was going to establish an independent investigation.
Those are the fundamental differences between my position and that of Le Feuvre.
For helping to cover it all up – she gets an MBE.
For struggling to expose it – I get two years of rabid oppression from the Jersey oligarchy.
There is a further, key item of evidence which utterly damns Le Feuvre.
Though retired from the States some years ago, she continued to be involved as the Chair of the Jersey Child Protection Committee – a post she held until I sacked her in 2007.
Ask yourself this simple question – what reaction would you expect from an ethical and decent person who was Chair of the JCPC – upon beginning to hear of serious child protection failures being uncovered by the Minister?
My answer to that question is, “you’d expect them to be deeply concerned – concerned for child welfare as opposed concerned for civil servants – you’d expect them to contact the Minister – and offer unqualified support in addressing the issues.”
What was Le Feuvre’s response?
To collude with Frank Walker, Bill Ogley and Marnie Baudains in politically attacking the Minister in an effort to protect the oligarchy instead of vulnerable children.
She even signed the letter demanding my sacking written by Marnie Baudains - THE most culpable of the present civil servants – to Frank Walker.
So if Le Feuvre was innocent of any culpability – or wanted to express some kind of mea culpa – she was handed the opportunity on a plate in 2007.
Instead of doing the right thing – she simply disgraced herself yet further; indeed, continues to do so; witness her comments to The Guardian.
These figures are approximations, but from 1945 until 2005 Jersey had a system of government based on 7 member committees.
During that episode there have been 20 3-year electoral cycles; that’s 20 committees, and, about 140 individual political, terms with responsibility for child protection. The total of individual politicians will be lower than that, as some States members will have served more than one term on the committee.
But still – that leaves a very significant number of politicians with responsibility for child protection - during all those decades of monstrous child abuse.
How many of them recognised what was going on, investigated the failings – and tried to do something about it?
One.
Me.
And we all know what happened next.
Stuart
"It's one thing having dozens, or even hundreds, of people posting on blogs and websites, but that isn't going to have much of an effect on the mainstream media is it?"
You'd be surprised! Don't underestimate the power of freedom of speech.
Besides, people are doing a heck of a lot more than blogging. You can't blame us for wanting to keep many of the things we are doing close to our chest.
Protesting in the streets is just one way to express disatisfaction, in a corrupt system - there are many other ways to bring down a government that is rotten to the core. Any government which not only covers up institutional child abuse but actually rewards the abusers is in great need of immediate replacement. Protesting in the streets is a visible and effective way of expressing extreme displeasure as long as there is proper coverage of the protest in the media. Sadly, the BBC cannot be trusted to fulfil the obligation (paid for by the BBC licence fee) of fair and accurate reporting, as we saw in the recent London protest. If it hadn't been for bloggers and their mobile phones the police would have got off scot free with GBH and manslaughter!
We are going to get justice, and we are going to get it without bloodshed, rioting, public disorder and anything else we might be inadvertantly or falesly accused of, during any street protests we may or may not attend. We are going to get justice and have clean hands as we point the finger to those who have blood on their hande.
We are doing just great here - we are making very big waves, and they are getting bigger.
Why do contributors to this thread (and others, come to that) find it so difficult to stick to the point?
Why drag the Masons into everything? Is this yet another symptom of "the Jersey way"?
Did you hear about the Jersey dairy farmer who became a Freemason?
He kept giving everyone the secret milkshake!
Knighthood for you, good Sir!!
Taking safety a bit too far!
Stuart,do you think now that you have named Danny Wherry as a child rapist ,he will sue you for defamation? Or will he be to scared to face you in court, as this will prove you have been telling the truth.
I've named Wherry as a child rapist loads of times already.
I'm desperately waiting for the bastard to try and sue me.
That would give his victims their day in court as witnesses.
A day in court denied to them by Barking Bill. Why'd Bill let him off? Same reason as all the others - he'd spill his guts in open court and take down dozens of others with him - along with whatever tatty fragments of credibility may be left clinging to the Jersey oligarchy.
And wouldn't it just be fascinating - criminal cases = beyond all reasonable doubt.
Civil cases = balance of probabilities.
A good analogy is OG Simpson. He got away with murder at his criminal trial - but was found culpable of the murder in the civil action brought by his victims' families.
Defamation action?
Bring it, I say.
Bring it on - all you "innocent" shysters.
Stuart
'the child rapist Geoff Spencer'
Can you give some more info. re your above statement. Was this person ever charged?
If you have so much more evidence than the AG claims to have is there no way you could copy to each and every lawyer in the island.
sooner or later if you throw enough mud some of it has to stick.... if enough people see the evidence... surely the truth will out...
How about a poster campaign along the lines of
xxxxx xxxxxx "Child Rapist"
if this alleagation is false - please sue me.
This woman should not of been allowed to be in charge of a dog let alone the welfare of children.
Her statement to the media relating to a "good belting" not doing any harm should be reminded that it is illegal to violently attack any child, she obviously thought the McGuires conduct was fine during her reign as head of the Childrens Department.
This woman portrays the most sinister of society - violence breeds violence, obviously her father acting violent towards her was acceptable.
Children who suffered abuse during this womans reign should rightfully summons this woman for allowing these henious crimes to go on, they were obviously acceptable to her. The mental and physical damage suffered by children in the care of these two disgusting people have been damaged for life. The abused should be submitting civil actions against all of these people.
I would not let this woman near my children, god help it if she has any of her own, or grandchildren what damage has she done to them?
Is there nothing new to write about that you have to attack an 80 year old woman who has already been sacked by you? Seems a bit pointless and pathetic to me...this letter is old news.
The AG has the evince that I have - and a lot more besides.
But even though I have access to less evidence than him - I can still state for a stone-fact that in any EU country many of the people he is letting off would be prosecuted; guilt or innocence would be a matter for the courts to decide - not Bill Bailhache.
Stuart.
so whoever, just because she is an 80 yrs old woman does not mean she should be accountable for her actions. The damage done to children under her care will not go away, just because she is elderly does not mean she is not be held accountable for gross negligence in her duties. She was still working until stuart sacked and quite able to discuss her sentiments with the media.
We need to begin action against the perverts. In Canada they stand peacefully outside the perverts home with banners. The Police then come along and have to protect the pervert. For his own safety he has to be removed to a safe house. Its a brilliant way to deal with this scum by disrupting them and getting them out of town.
No - Geoff Spencer has not been charged - though he is still alive and living in the UK on his fat States of Jersey pension.
The police have interviewed him with a view to prosecution - well, that was their objective when Graham Power and Lenny Harper were on the scene.
Now that Wierdcop and Madwell are at the helm - doing every bidding of Barking Bill - we can forget it.
Spencer - just like the McGuires and the rest of the States of Jersey child abusers and concealers - will escape justice - because he'd sing like the proverbial canary if put on trial.
And - rather inconveniently in Spencer's case - he is one of the many child abusers who - once their activities grew so gross as to no longer be hidable - the States of Jersey just quietly let go - no more said about the matter - provided they go away.
Another is Martin Cougan - who Phil Dennit let off - on condition he just quietly and immediately resign and leave the island.
The Jersey oligarchy's entire strategy has but one overriding objective - keep all cases, civil or criminal, out of court.
Anything involving charges against present or former senior States of Jersey employees will be kept a country mile from an open court.
Nope - the only people they will prosecute will be a few low-grade scumbags - for appearances sake; people who are insignificant, have no connections, no dirt on the establishment and who are disposable.
Stuart
No action over senator's swearing.
I am sure that Stuart has been sworn at more than once. The real issue is that Perchard told Stuart to top himself. This excuse for a man should be birched by the idiot cop from St Martins.
Voice for Children could you please provide a link to the guardian website for that article?
I'm amassing a wealth of articles and anything of any interest in case I should need any information for my various political writings.
Regards,
Ryan M.
You will find more than one advocate who like the young boys. Your a disgrace to the island and should leave.
"The Jersey oligarchy's entire strategy has but one overriding objective - keep all cases, civil or criminal, out of court.
Anything involving charges against present or former senior States of Jersey employees will be kept a country mile from an open court".
Ahhh....so thats why child abuser Wherry is being protected-it would involve a "states employee" in a court action where the evidence submitted would open up a massive sh*tstorm!.
Best get your brollys out because this is not going to blow over-criminal or civil-we will get our day in court.
Ryan M
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/mar/14/haut-de-la-garenne
Anyone who has ever had any dealings with Mick Stevens will know he would be there taking notes at any birchings, well with one hand anyway....
Has JTM reincarnated as Stoneface on PJ?
I see his friend Deputy Dawg is still sticking the boot in on you Stuart. They never learn do they? What's wrong with GATACCA aka Adrian?
Good to see its dying a death on that forum.
Surprise surprise the farmer has been let off. We can't have those in charge being repremanded can we? It gives a bad impression and could lead to people thinking that the authorities aren't perfect. People might then doubt their ability to govern us. We can't have that can we?
Just because 'she' is 80 now makes not one jot of a difference.
She was not 80 when she was in post and allowed this abuse to be covered up. My, my she even was awarded an MBE! What a farce.
This may be old news to you Poster, but it is news that has to be kept in people's minds because it ain't going to go away that easily!
Don't forget Nazi war criminals are still being brought to justice all these years on, and also in advanced years, so where is the harm naming somebody in this instance where people are NOT getting justice?
Come to Jersey Life Enriching.
Local BBC radio news for one bulletin only, mentioned (as far as I can gather) an English lawyer saying that even a child of six giving evidence on child abuse should be taken seriously(or words to that effect). I listened out for the next bulletin, but their top story this time was slagging Shona Pitman. Did anyone else hear this report, broadcast only once?
"the St Helier Boat Owners Assoc Chairman, Mr Mike Stevens, recomends the re-introduction of the birch, when dealing with youths/vandalism."
I am of an age to remember when the birch was regularly used on teenagers in Jersey. If you have seen the back of a young man who has been birched it is something that will stay will you for life. The last one I saw received the birch for "borrowing" a car in the 60's.I saw him on the beach weeks afterwards and the marks were still livid and shocking. I often wonder how he ended up after this barbaric punishment.
"a disgrace to the island"
To whom are you referring?
I hope to god your NOT referring to Stuart.
PJ - JTM has been back for a while, you can sus his posting out quite easily.
Thanks Voice for Children.
Stuart said:
"Nope - the only people they will prosecute will be a few low-grade scumbags - for appearances sake; people who are insignificant, have no connections, no dirt on the establishment and who are disposable."
You are right stuart, the only person to be brought before a court was a resident and not an employee, I guess this is we only reason this case went to court. I just wish BBC Jersey would stop using this case as an example of justice being done.
Floggings remain the order of the day at St Helier Yacht Club then?
Yes - that's my understanding.
Certain individuals - who labour under the misapprehension that they're some kind of 'wit' - are known to have such predilections.
As with a quite a few other members.
Old "traditions" die hard.
Stuart
This is the result of birching, Jersey 1964 (more in archives link).
Perhaps linkmaster could oblige?
http://www.corpun.com/jeju6408.htm
Mick Stevens should be called to account for his actions!!! Then offer an apology, Then resign.
Links to the Guardian and other recent articles.
Stuart
VFC has his doorstepping of the AG on his site, what a smug git he is old Billy Ballsache.
Have a look and see for yourself - btw who's the establishment patsy propping him up saying rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb during the filming?
The hobby bobby who wants to bring back the birch should take a hike back to his cave! Clearly the man is of limited education and has allowed the 20th century to pass him by - he probably thinks being gay is a immoral, and feminism a deodrant! Just stick with the parking tickets Mr Hobby Bobby!
"Anonymous said...
How about a poster campaign along the lines of
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xxxxx xxxxxx "Child Rapist"
if this alleagation is false - please sue me."
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And, Stuart has predicted that there will be no prosecutions of anyone who held actual authority. That leaves only righteous civil disobedience, and the more press the better.
How about taking the previous commenter's suggestion of carrying signs naming and shaming those known beyond a shadow of a doubt to be guilty? You could combine that with your protest and it would not matter if the local BBC ignored it, CNN would probably be there.
The international press cares not one whit for a small regular protest, but with signs like that, it becomes a different story. When citizens "out" paedophiles, or even old former Nazis, it becomes a big human interest story every time. You also could really use the help of the international press for your case with Jack Straw.
For the whitewashing Oligarchs, there is nothing of value except Jersey's image, so hit them hard where it really hurts!
This letter to which you refer was probably just signed by the woman in question. The action by all parties involved is unprofessional and the 'punishment' tantamount to a rap on the knuckles.
In todays news how reassuring it is to see that the arrogance of William Bailhache and his law officiers knows no bounds, is it to be the norm in Jersey that............Little Children Should Be Seen and Not Heard.........hardly life enriching or ECHR compatible.......
Knowing that we have law firms like Hanson Trnouf in this island is a glimmer of hope for the future.....
The birching link reveals the appalling abuse involved.
Birching is both an act of torture - and an act of failure.
If society has failed to the extent that its only answer to troublesome - and troubled - children, is to flog them, then we cannot be surprised at the fracturing of society.
The irony is - many of the people who advocate such things regard themselves as Christians.
Violence begets violence.
Hatred begets hatred.
Fear begets fear.
Some commenters have suggested that these idiot adults should be subjected to some of their own, violent, medicine.
No - there is no answer in violence.
We have to transcend such things.
Let us be better than them.
Stuart
As made clear in my last comment - I do not advocate vigilantism or violence - on the contrary, I oppose them - so no - as much as many readers want me to just publicise the addresses of all these wretched people - I will not.
As disgusting as they are - the abusers - and the cover-up merchants - we must carry on fighting for effective and civilised justice.
It isn't easy - it has already been - and will continue to be - a long and difficult road.
But our examples must be people like Martin Luther King and Mahatma Gandhi.
When your cause is right and righteous - you have no need of violence.
Stuart
I am reading the autobiog of M Gandhi at present titled 'The story of my experiment with truth'....he was indeed eventually a very passive man ...........but I have only got up to when he was in London, wearing snappy suits and learning to dance............what springs to mind is the following
'the pen is mightier than the sword' !
Well, well, well,
If it wasn’t the ATTORNEY Generals very good friend KEN Vibert sitting next to each other in the royal square, having a little bit of a laugh minutes after Senator Stuart Syvret had called a press conference for the victims of Blanche Pierre.
Two people at that conference spoke openly about the terrible abuse they had suffered at the hands of the Mcguires.
Hang your heads in shame Bailache and Vibert and the rest of our so called government that we pay for
Where are the responses about this outrage, the silence is deafening from our elected representatives.
I should just make it clear that of the two people interviewed, one was a survivor of the McGuires, the other was a survivor of Mr. & Mrs. Bonner - another staunch Catholic couple - let off by Barking Bill.
Mr. and Mrs. Bonner - friends of Frank Walker from - can we guess where?
St. Helier Yacht Club.
Frank's pretty handy with a cricket bat - as his performances for the States members' cricket team showed.
Perhaps that's why he felt a certain protective affinity to the Bonners - given their propensity for battering the small orphans in their care with cricket bats.
It was Bailhache's corrupt let-off of these two maniacs that provoked Lenny to write that belligerent memo in response.
Stuart
Perhaps, you will wonder, as I have, why they are spending so much time picking over Lenny Harper’s work and reputation when men who helped turn children into murderers and suicides, and a man who made a small boy’s head bob up and down in the water, have not been called to account.
Gandhi was, indeed, a flawed human being - as are we all.
Stuart
Indeed.
It just speaks volumes, doesn't it?
Stuart
Is KEN Vibert any relation to Mike Vibert? Ex Education Minister who colluded with child battering?
"the St Helier Boat Owners Assoc Chairman, Mr Mike Stevens, recomends the re-introduction of the birch, when dealing with youths/vandalism."
These 'plastic policemen' are usually power hungry people without much of a life, hence there need to wield their influence playing pretend PC Plod.
If this man condones the outdated punishment of the birch he should a) be outed from his role immediately, and
b) probably sees nothing wrong with child abuse.
What delightful people administer 'justice' in this Island.
Re
Bailanche and Ken Vibret
Is Vibret of the solicitors firm Vibrets? Can anyone confirm this?
This is important and another piece of the jig saw, nearly complete!
JTM why are you being so stone faced on your forum? You posts are too predictable, try and get someone else to write them for you.
GATTACA and Stoneface guess who?
Please forgive me folks if I go of subject!
I am picking up additional information as I go.
I am coming from the outside In! My efforts our at an advanced stage, but I picking up some useful stuff of Stuarts Blog.
Apolgise to all if my queries appear to be stupid or insignificant
Perhaps the victims of the McGuires and Wherry can take heart from todays news from NI
From the times
"From Bali to Mumbai the message went out around the world from Belfast tonight that terrorists can in future be successfully pursued by their victims through the courts.
A landmark ruling in which four men and the Real IRA were held liable for Ireland’s worst terrorist atrocity will give belief that civil actions can succeed against perpetrators when the traditional route of criminal prosecution has failed. "
Stuart
In a previous comment I suggested that during any protest gathering, just carrying the "name and shame" signs someone else recommended would help attract the attention of
the international press.
I did not mean to propose any sort of violent vigilante justice, just the kind of civil disobedience which would bring global awareness to the blatant official cover-up.
I agree 100% with your statement that "When your cause is right and righteous - you have no need of violence."
I would not wish to suggest that supporters of truth should in any way instigate acts of vigilante violence. Only the names already revealed on your blog, for whom you have documented ample evidence of guilt, should be publicly named in signs. But, if that would lead to others deciding to take matters further, by committing violence against the perpetrators, that would only injure the cause of righteousness.
Thankyou to the poster who gave the corporal punishment website re birching. It fully explains what I described seeing as a teenager myself. The photo is not too clear but the description of what happened until at least 1964 in Jersey will chill your blood.It still happened in the Isle of Man until 1973.
The fact that a 15 year old Jersey boy received 12 strokes of the birch in 1964 without his parents' knowledge beggars belief. They would be threatened with 24 strokes if they re-offended. It is no wonder that people like Iris Le Feuvre's father thought belting children was the way to go.
disgrace to the island and should leave.
Not you Stuart the pervert lawyers.
Dam Buster
i think Ken Vibert is the Constable of St Ouen and was a farmer.
Dam Buster
Senator Ralph Vibert ex Solicitor General was a senior partner at Viberts along with his brother Vivian. Ralph Vibert died recently.
It is 04:46 and I cannot sleep once again. I wish to share our story. A member of my family was repeatedly raped and viciously beaten up while in foster care in Jersey. This person still cannot speak about what happened. We both agree with Stuart that violence is not the answer. We both want justice and will never give up the right to justice. We have gained a lot of support from Stuart, VFC and contributors to this blog. Thank you all.
The British Pres are far too interested in bringing down teh Labour Party to bother about child abuse in Jersey - funny old world!
Perhaps someone could interest Donal McIntyre when he is skating in Jersey I beleive his other guise is as an investigative journalist! Mind you messy with the Jersey way is skating on thin ice! This issue swill never be cleared up by the like sof Billy Ballyhash and his cohorts too many vested interests in keeping the hierachy's veneer of respectability! I think some new approach has to be made it is pointless hopng for a break through in Jersey - look who has fallen in the attempt - Power corrupts afteall!
In the video Ken Vibert is the constable of St Ouen. There are lots of Viberts in St Ouen, possibly all related if you go back far enough. Look at his body language. He whole torso is turned away from the AG. He has his legs crossed away from Mr Bailhache too. Not a welcome sign.
Talking about Stuart's percieved persecution of this 80 year old woman brings to my mind the Liverpool Care Pathway, which was in place on Ward 87 of North Staffs Hospital, the one which Dr Rita Pal blew the whistle on and had closed down, due to the large numbers of old people who were being dehydrated to death there. (surely you have not forgotten that scandal alteady?) Not to mention the disgraceful treatment of old people at Stafford Hospital!
This Common Purpose/Freemason plan of involuntary euthenasia of old people in hospitals all over the UK is surely a lot more disrespectful of old age than anything Stuart could be accused of doing!
Some people have suggested that we should identify abusers at our protest.
No - we should not do that.
Slogans and some good political chants, that's fine.
But the instant you start naming people at a public gathering - you're on the path to mob-rule.
Our movement is non-violent.
A further, important reason for not naming abusers, nor encouraging any kind of aggresion is that to do so would give to Bailhache and Wierdcop all the excuse they needed to ban the protest. They'd try claimimg there was a risk of breach of the peace or public disorder.
So - the protest - non-violent - and not focusing in individuals.
Stuart
"Some commenters have suggested that these idiot adults should be subjected to some of their own, violent, medicine.
No - there is no answer in violence."
Stuart - you're right.
These child torturers would have been brought up in fear of violence as children themselves, in spite of what Iris said, it didn't do them any good at all.
I was quite shocked when I read Lord Mountbatten's account of being a sea cadet. The ritual bare butt floggings, the acceptance of these floggings by the cadets, by Lord Mountbatten, it just seemed like something from another planet.
I was abused, but not by my dad, who would never have dreamed of publicly humiliating or flogging any of us children, and it just seems such a wierd thing to do to a child, to my mind. I couldn't understand the teacher at our school, hitting boys just for fun, and somehow, it was ok, because he was the teacher, and we were the kids.
It was Lord Mountbatten's acceptance of the public humiliation which shocked me. When I was abused in the children's home as a child, I tried to fight back - I didn't just accept it! It just seems so wierd to accept that kind of abuse as "normal".
Just because a thing happens all the time doesn't mean to say it is right.
"It is 04:46 and I cannot sleep once again. I wish to share our story. A member of my family was repeatedly raped and viciously beaten up while in foster care in Jersey. This person still cannot speak about what happened"
I am glad that you and your family have received some comfort from Stuart, VFC and others on this blog. The fact that your relative has been able to tell even you about their horrific experiences is at least one good thing. the trouble is that you are losing sleep over it and this person is not getting the help they need. Bless you both for supporting them but make sure you get help and advice yourselves. Don't ever give up hope. The tide has to turn but I agree that this has to be non-violent and peaceful or we sink to the level of the abusers.
L X
Stoneface=JTM=JON HAWORTH
KURMIT LUNDY
Stoneface doesn't sound anything like Jonathon Haworth!
So Ole Razzy is a TV producer? Does he run a TV company down at St.Aubin perhaps? :)
I found this rather amusing -
Dear Ms M
The Attorney General has asked me to respond to your email.
He suggests that, if you have not already done so, you first of all read the basis for the decisions which is set out in full on the Law Officers web site at http://www.gov.je/LawOfficers/HCA+Statements.htm. You might then have a better understanding of the position than that provided on certain blog sites. As to the position regarding the media, the primary concerns are the interests of justice generally but including those of the complainants. Given that it was inevitable that one or more of the complainants would approach the media once advised of the decisions, it was right that the media should be told what those decisions were but embargoed until all the complainants had been told personally by the police. That afforded the proper compromise of the interests of those who might be affected by the publication of the decision. It was in his view unquestionably the right approach and he regrets that you are not able to appreciate that.
Yours sincerely
Tim Allen
Tim Allen | Chief Clerk
Law Officers' Department
Morier House | St Helier | Jersey | JE1 1DD
Nope - that's RH silly. Lovely bloke and he's not interested in politics in the slightest. What's the big deal anyhow? Stuart knows who I am. If you want to email me on PJ I'm happy to chat but it seems to me there are far more worthy things to be discussing on this thread then who I might of might not be.
STONEFACE
Best way for a TROLL to hide is behind alternate views.
Fran Walker Fan Club apology went straight over their heads!
re: the birch
"If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed." - Albert Einstein
Come on Syvret. Wake up! Release some comments. I'm bored.
It must of been a joy to see...
Fergusons face when Southern resigned.
Tim Allen writes to "Ms M"- on behalf of the Attorney General- re: the recent happy news from the AGs office..
"...It was in his view unquestionably the right approach and he regrets that you are not able to appreciate that".
So there it is-in black and white-HIS view...and UNQUESTIONABLE.
(Is it me or does the geezer think Hes achieved divine status?)
Seriously-isnt that exactly the kind of arrogant and dismissive attitude that so endears the AG to his many disciples?- and continues to frustrate the many victims of child abuse here in Jersey.
Stuart,
When do you think Mr Day and Mr Power will be re-enstated?
Its nice to hear today that Advocate Sinel is still on your case.
Stuart
Do you think that the new Health Minister is going to have a mind of her own?
Durandal is also Jon Haworth.
Gives himself away
JUSTCE FOR VICTIMS protest march on Saturday the 4th of July 12 noon from Peoples Park to the Royal Square.
Followed by a demonstration in the Royal Square Monday the 6th of July to coincide with the swearing in of new Bayleaf Micheal Birt.
"Durandal is also Jon Haworth.
Gives himself away"
Yeah.....Everytime!!!
PJ- Nice one "Ashley" and "Gee Gee". What a pleb Durandal is. Too aggressive with his replies. Should have posted this on PJ, but cant be bothered to sign up.
On a different subject,
who asked/gave permission to Ben Shenton to write that grovelling letter to David Cammeron?
Did Ann Pryke know he was writing?
I ask because it reads like an official message from the island of Jersey.
And I don't think it helps our cause to be associated with such an incredibly crass, clumping attempt to curry favour whilst ANNOYING THE PARTY WHICH IS STILL IN POWER.
So, let us have all you good people out there who have been disgusted by the AG's recent decision not to prosecute, turn up and support the victims, who deserve all the backing we can give them.
Writing on blogs and comments in the JEP are NOT bearing fruit, and I am sure that an hour or so is not too much to ask to show your disdain for this injustice.
The AG 'et al' must be made aware that this is not going to go away in spite, and despite. Support this march in the name of all that is just.
Early warning
DON'T BUY A JEP ON FRIDAY!
Ask your friends family to boycott the rag for just this one day of the week (or one copy to be passed around if the habit cannot be broken in the elderly straight away).
Editors and hacks responsible for a plunge in circulation numbers do not last long these days I hear.
But don't worry about them writers of their quality will be snapped up quickly...mmwaahahahahahahaha.
JTM never to be forgotten just like a bad smell in a confined space.
Jumped up
Troll
Muppet
Is Adrian his puppet or is it the other way around?
JTM never to be forgotten just like a bad smell in a confined space.
So shut up about it then
Duhrandel is a chip off the old block isn't he? Hello JasON the establishment's online mouth piece. Doing a good job of turning people isn't he?
Re: Donchais, on absurd comment in her letter from AG spokesman -
"It was in his view unquestionably the right approach and he regrets that you are not able to appreciate that."
Ouch! Looks like the Olis are concerned about "Ms M's" loyal international readership and are trying to convince her their hollow legal reasoning and pitiful excuses are sound. Somehow, I do not think Donchais will be fooled.
"Trials and Tribulations" is getting dangerously close to a million readers, and they are likely to remain sympathetic to victims of terrible child abuse. Those who cover up crime should be worried.
Nah! Keep him in the picture, this is the best way to tackle bully boys.
Deputy the Dawg another muppet.
For someone dying of cancer McGuire came a cross as quite fit on the Panaroma program. Nothing wrong with him from what I could see.
I wonder what the French make of all this?
stuart, I know that you don't like to edit out posts but all this PJ and JTM stuff is pointless and tedious - it lowers the standard of comment on your site. I think you would be justified in banning all these petty posts.
Hysteria aside - authorities found seriously lacking & unable to acknowledge their failings:
Viewpoint: The Fritzl fiasco
Elisabeth Fritzl and her children could have been freed years earlier if Austrian authorities had not missed dozens of clues, writes Stefanie Marsh, author of a new book on the man who held his daughter in a dungeon for a quarter of a century
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8089697.stm
Stuart
Says it all doesn't it?
Shows that he really does think he is in an unassailable position to pontificate.
Is deluded
Arrogant AG
Barking Bill
"It was in his view unquestionably the right approach and he regrets that you are not able to appreciate that."
Time to offload this failure of a civil servant.
Call him to account this failed lawyer that can't hack the real commercial world.
He is vomit inducing and not fit to lick the boots of the victims.
On a slightly brighter note.
Justice has been done!!!
Unfortunately it wasn't done in Jersey, but hey.
RDS got it!!!
Any views on the Ken Saro-Wiwa story?? anyone? Stuart?
I have been trying to follow the it as closely as I can. They had to pay $15.5 million to avoid a trial in the end. Not sure if this means they have admitted guilt or not.
stuart, I know that you don't like to edit out posts but all this PJ and JTM stuff is pointless and tedious - it lowers the standard of comment on your site. I think you would be justified in banning all these petty posts.
To do that will ease pressure on the TROLL.
May I nominate Ben Shenton for lead role in the Green Room Clubs pantomime this Christmas, he'd be perfect for Oliver .......'Please sir, can I have some more'.........
How pathetic that he should grovel to that pleb Cameron.
Clearly Shenton has a missing link!
'Justice has been done!!!
Unfortunately it wasn't done in Jersey, but hey.
RDS got it!!!'
This proves that persistence for justice pays and there is no reason why that should not apply here, however long it takes.
Stuart - what exactly is happening with the review of funding in lawyers in child cases.
To quote the rag and Tim Le Cocq............ 'At a time when all public spending is coming under review, the question of how money can be spent in safeguarding the interests of children is obvious topical, and identifying a consistent basis for the costs of handling legal proceedings is an important part of any political decision which may be needed later'...................
It appears that the case of Family X has prompted this debate when following The Children ( Jersey ) Law 2002............legal representatives were appointed for the first time to defend vulnerable children, resultant costs were high and paid for from the public purse.
Hanson Renouf state that if Ben Shenton had agreed to the treatment in the first place ( if you take the trouble to read extracts from the Hanson Renouf web pages, you must surley ask why Shenton took such a stand ) and had Law Officers not obstructed release of all relevant documentation ...resultant fees would have been considerably less.
Could you please offer an opinion on what exactly is going on here.............from where, a complete novice, see the issue it is abundantly clear that the children were manifestly let down by Child Care Services in teh island and delaying their possible treatment has merely perpetuated the wrong doing, furthermore why are teh Law Officers Department allowed to hinder the wheels of justice?
On appeal the Law Officers Department were critisied for not initially releasing all documents ........what action has been taken against those officers do they have a corelation between their actions and the cost to the public purse?
I woudl welcome your opinion on this issue, because I sense that what is intende is not in line with the spirit of the law of 2002.............
Voice for care leavers
Re Shell and 'Not sure if this means they have admitted guilt or not.'
I heard an interview with Ken Sarwiwa junior and their lawyers last Sunday and they had Shell dead to rights, along with documents written by Shell to the Nigerian Government offering them support in their fight against the protesters.
Shell knew they were going to lose and knew it would be massively bad publicity so they did that wonderful thing of settling out of court without admitting guilt but offering 15 million as an 'humanitarian gesture'. Yeah, right!
Like Hazel Blears did nothing wrong but paid back 13,000 quid as a gesture of good will.
And the Jersey States will pay compensation to abuse victims although nothing happened.
snip......."stuart, I know that you don't like to edit out posts but all this PJ and JTM stuff is pointless and tedious".....snip
Is that you Jon?
Can't take what you dissed?
It won't go away dude.
"And the Jersey States will pay compensation to abuse victims although nothing happened."
Hmmm. It won't stop them cutting and coming again, as they have done with so many other institutional abuse victims.
They have been accusing us abuse survivors of being potential child abusers, labelling us with MSBP and other psychobabble, in secret courts, and social workers aided and abbetted by police officers stealing our children (snatching them seconda after the umbilical courd is cut, from the delivery ward - I kid you not, this is absolutly true) and then having them forcably adopted.
Do you suppose these vile crimes can be wiped out with a few measly quid?
Zoompad
"stuart, I know that you don't like to edit out posts but all this PJ and JTM stuff is pointless and tedious"
I totally agree, this JTM lark has gone on long enough. To the best of my knowledge he is not posting on PJ at the moment however, if people continue to throw him a line, eventually he will take the bate and resume his tirade of nonsensical and sometimes very hurtful comments which I for one do not want to ever read again.
Thank you
Carrie
New Deputy Bailiff appointed -
William Bailhache has been appointed the Deputy Bailiff of Jersey.
Mr Bailhache will take up his appointment in November this year.
The New Deputy Bailiff will take over from Michael Birt.
The appointment was approved by the Queen on the recommendation of the Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice.
They want to gag syvret says lawyer
Rob - the States will TRY and pay compensation to the victims, but rest assured, some of them are not interested in the money, just the justice that they are being denied.
Money talks, but some people have far more dignity than to walk away as easily as that, and in that fight I wish them well.
They have my full support.
More Citizens Media please too, this is where we get facts.
So the police are trying to gag you now Stuart!!
How frightened they must all be.
Below a comment left on the JEP article regarding this. Again, whether it gets printed or not remains to be seen!
'So....what has happened to freedom of speech in this Island, or are we not entitled to read the TRUTH, and decide for ourselves.
Treading on very thin ice I think our Police State of Jersey Force are.
The only gagging I can think of is that of decent people being sickened by this latest attempt to quieten Senator Syvret.'
Zoompad does not do herself or her cause any favours by publishing:
"This Common Purpose/Freemason plan of involuntary euthenasia of old people . . ."
Or is it open season on the Freemasons again, Senator Syvret?
H.A.
Jerusalem
Apparently the Brits have more on their collective plate than miscreant MPs.
See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8093490.stm
for the latest dose of "the English Disease" of child abuse.
Yet ANOTHER example of "the Jersey Way":
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/jersey/8093123.stm
It's bad enough that there is an hereditary monarchy in the United Kingdom.
We do NOT need another one here!
"Jersey’s Attorney General has been appointed the island’s next Deputy Bailiff.
William Bailhache is the man who last week announced his decison not to pursue prosecutions in two cases of historic abuse.
He will take over from Michael Birt, who is being sworn in as Bailiff next month.
Some Care Leavers have said they will use the occassion to demonstrate against the way the island’s authorities have handled the inquiry"
Now I am bloody angry, Why did they wait until after they dropped the abuse cases to announce this? This beggars belief, just absolutely disgusting!!! Please, please, please support us and be at Peoples Park on Saturday 4th July 2009 at 12noon and in the Royal Square on Monday 4th July for the swearing in.
Carrie
"Zoompad does not do herself or her cause any favours by publishing:"This Common Purpose/Freemason plan of involuntary euthenasia of old people . . ."
Zoompad believes in calling a spade a spade.
I'm the least of the problems that the masons are ging to have to face - I'm a tiny little ant compared to Almighty God.
The freemason organisation is a wicked den of hierarchal corruption. Abuse against children is not only tolerated - it is systematically covered up, and Anyone who is honest would not want to belong to such an organisation.
I would not want to belong to a group which behaved like that. I do not understand why you are choosing to defend them. Are you frightened of them? I understand there are dire threats to those who want to leave.
Stuart
Just heard The States, and Perchard wanting to delay the inquiry into Mrs Elizabeth Rourkes death, until the Autumn. He lost, and the politicians who voted with him says it all, can you put their names on this blog.
"It's bad enough that there is an hereditary monarchy in the United Kingdom."
We've got a heriditary monarchy AND an unelected one as well, now that Old Broon has made Mandalson King of England.
What did we do to deserve that?
Hi Stuart
Just to let your readers know that there will be a march on july 4th from peoples park to the royal square..
There will be more details over the coming days.. Its time to leave the computer at home
So who is with us its ok leaving comments but who is prepared to come and march with us please find the time thanks
rs.
My heart goes out to the parents and the childre of the nursery in PLYMOUTH where a 39 yr old woman has been charged with taking and distributing indecent pictures of children. How disturbing and sickening is that? even more disturbing is the fact that child abusers think they can get away with it. This should be a firm warning to the Judiciary in Jersey, their failure in holding Child Abusers accountable gives other sico's the idea that THEY can get away with it. I realise that Plymouth is NOT Jersey, however Sico's really ought to be aware there is "no hiding place" one day you will have to face those you abuse.
Justice may take time but it will happen one day.
Hi Stuart..
I see a poster mentioned Razzy from planet jersey well i would like to tell your readers that he is a friend of mine and a well sound chap..
Readers JTM is not posting ( at the moment )
Planet jersey does have a place even if we don't all agree with what's written on it..
There is a more important fight going on at the moment and that's getting justice for the abuse survivors..
So again i will say who will join us on the 4th of july..
Its time to make a bloody stand im sick of it are you
rs
Re: `for somone dying of cancer : I wonder what the French make of this'?
The French as a whole have no idea! However, living in France I know how the system works! What you have to do en mass may I add, is to make The french Police/Gendarmerie aware of who is living within a certain commune and the alligations against them!
The French authorities are then obligated by law to investigate/or make it known to the accused that they are under suspicion!! It's as simple as that....
Police state?....welcome to France Mr & mrs Mguire!!
You can run at the Jersey tax payers expense, but you cant hide!!
Ps please excuse the spelling as I went to St Helier boy's ....if that means anything and spent some time at HdlG!!
I hat to say it but maybe the way forward is a total break from the UK....the whole thing stinks!!
Fully sympathise with the St. Helier Boys' School spelling.
I too was sentenced to that place.
Christ - what a nightmare.
I walked out on it when I was 15 - and it was as though my life didn't begin until I had begun to recover from the shell-shock and trauma - when I was around 17 or 18.
Stuart
A couple of brief messages.
Firstly, a commenter is asking for me to respond to his defence of the decision by Bill Bailhache to let off certain child abusers.
I will respond - and am happy to debate the subject - but I have an immense amount of other work-loads on my shoulders.
I don't have a multi-million pound department of lawyers and such-like to compile such arguments for me.
And running this blog is a one-man operation.
So give me some breathing-space.
Secondly - I'm going to stop the Freemason threads again.
As I said previously, it is not that Masonry is not a legitimate topic of debate.
It's just that I find the arguments about it to be somewhat futile - and not a little boring.
So don't be offended if I don't post Mason related comments for a few weeks.
Stuart
Surely, the question is,who's going to be the next AG.. Thought about thet ? We live in sick times, but Jersey has got to win 1st prize as the amongest one of the sickest stitch ups ever!! If you don't get out on to the streets than it's your fault as well.....writing form?
Carrie, I for one was most certainly not surprised at the appointment of the new AG, I certainly won;t be surprised either if in a year or two if the new Bailiff is shuffled out. Think about it. Wheels within wheels, protection today - head rolls tomorrow.
Keep on fighting girl, your a credit to all the Abused in Jersey for your commitment in ensuring that Justice will be seen to be done.
Just wish I lived close by so that I could help you further in your task.
Who voted for the delay till Autumn, and lost,Perchard, Le Sueur, Le Main, Fox couldnt think so didnt vote, there were more, but thats all that comes to mind.
Deputy Geoff Southern has found his position on the Population and Migration Scrutiny Sub-Panel untenable, after Senator Ferguson's failure to support the Strategic Plan amendments that he proposed, based on the Panel's work.
Geoff says "I shall never work for this woman again." He also believes that "She sides with the establishment and cannot recognise any evidence that does not correspond with her political bias and bigotry. In fact she could not spot evidence if it jumped up and said 'boo'."
His conclusion is that she should not be in charge of a scrutiny panel at all. However, while she is, he will not waste his time, nor tarnish his credibility, by working under her.
Does anyone have the link to an article that was on the net a few monts ago, regarding the Bonners?
oh what a suprise bailaches wee bro gets to be the new deputy dog, well the abuse cases are well stiched up . The brothers think they run this island , do they have ancient rites or just s case of been trained up for the job the Jersey way.i cant believe it,do either of them have sons as they will inherit good jobs in the next few years . Thats taken the piss , now is the time to take back our island .there are a few of them but thousands of us that believe in truth and justice .Come on you people of jersey stand up and be counted . 4 th july 12 noon peoples park .
Is there another Baillache brother or sister. If so maybe they could step into the AG seat. Wouldn't that be lovely a nice family affair, how quaint!!!!!!!!!!!
Honestly todays news really does take the p**s!!!!!!!
..hmmm.. a total break from the UK. Interesting thought.
Independence? A new democratic start. (like Iran maybe?)
Go for it I say.
(from the mainland)
"Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:58:00 o'clock BST
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I hate to say it but maybe the way forward is a total break from the UK....the whole thing stinks!!"
A total break from the UK would hand the establishment (the oligarchy, call them what you choose) free reign to do exactly as they please with the running of this island.
Independance would push Jersey closer toward feudal times than it is today. The gap between the politically privileged and the unpolitically unprivileged would rip wide open overnight.
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