Wednesday, 8 February 2012

AN UNLAWFUL ‘COUP’ AGAINST POLICE CHIEF

The Decision to Suspend Graham Power
On the face of it, this article is primarily concerned with the decision by the then Home Affairs Minister, Deputy Andrew Lewis, to suspend Police Chief Graham Power. However, those events are more usefully viewed as a lens – through which we can gain a clear picture of the sub-text – the real issues – the real decisions – that lay underneath that hapless and unlawful political adventure.

By considering how startlingly and overtly defective were the actions of Lewis, we see the true nature of the supposed “full legal and HR advice from highly competent professionals” that he was steered by.

We also see the true nature of the “system” those “professionals” represent – and we are confronted with the question, “what now?”

What we are considering is the very rule of law – or rather, the absence of the rule of law in Jersey.

In recent days I have had the opportunity to read the letter written by the Deputy Police Chief David Warcup, dated 10th November 2008, and addressed to Chief Executive Bill Ogley. This letter was the trigger for the suspension of Police Chief Graham Power at an unscheduled meeting of the morning of the 12th November. At that meeting the Home Affairs Minister, Andrew Lewis, and the Chief Executive to the States of Jersey, Bill Ogley, confronted Mr. Power, and informed him of the existence of the letter. They made various un-evidenced assertions about the Warcup letter (which itself makes various assertions not supported by an objective analyses of evidence), told Mr Power that he was being suspended, but gave him an opportunity to “consider his position”. Although deeply shocked at these actions (as was clearly intended) Mr. Power nevertheless did not acquiesce to the intimidation and threats.

What we turn to now is a consideration of the legal questions and implications that arise from these events. When doing so, it is important to set aside partisan political considerations, such as whether one agrees or disagrees with the politics of people like Lewis or Frank Walker, the then Chief Minister who was also instrumental in the suspension of Mr. Power. Instead, we are considering the relevant issues simply from the perspective of the legal requirements – the standards and obligations upon any ‘public authority’ – and the legal environment, the requirements of the law – within which they operate.

All of the relevant ‘actors’ in these events – the relevant agencies – are legally classified as ‘public authorities’. Thus the Home Affairs Minister, the Chief Minister, the Chief Executive, the Chief of Police, and the Attorney General, are all public authorities. And as public authorities, each entity is bound by administrative law.

As a Minister, you are acting as a ‘public authority’ – and in that sense, you are not free to do whatever you may feel like. You – as the Office-holder – are bound by law to properly discharge the functions of that Office. Ministerial positions exist to serve the public good – in accordance with the law in the general sense, and the specific legal duties and powers held by individual Ministries. It is such legal requirements that bind governments to the rule of law, and protect us all from the tyranny of executive power exercised according to partisan political whim.

Any public authority, or ‘public body’, such as a Ministry, must obey the law.

Having been a Minister myself, I’m familiar with the burdens of Office – the legal obligations that come with exercising the powers conferred upon a ‘public body’. Some decisions are easy – some are very difficult; some decisions are of comparatively minor significance – some are of the most profound gravity. You, as the Minister, are therefore under a legal obligation to engage in the appropriate levels of research, advice, procedure and consideration, proportionate to the decision at hand.

In a small, quasi self-governing jurisdiction like Jersey decisions rarely come more serious and profound, than a decision to suspend the Police Chief.

And we must again remind ourselves that it is not two individual people we are considering here; it is two public authorities – each with their own distinct roles, duties and legal status. Thus a decision to suspend a Police Chief cannot even be likened to a decision to suspend a Chief Executive of a public department, as serious as such a decision might be. For in the case of the Police Chief, by suspending him – the Minister is suspending - effectively vetoing – those prominent criminal investigations initiated and carried forward under the leadership of that Police Chief.

The Minister is, in effect, making a political decision that could very well interpose itself directly into the questions of how ordinary people are to receive the protection of the law, which people are to receive such protection, and, indeed, if certain people are to be, de facto, protected from the law.

It will be obvious to any thinking person that a decision to suspend a Police Chief must meet the very highest possible standards of objectivity, evidence, due process, diligence, research and consideration. Such is the potential for the abusive interference in the very policing of the law – the very fabric of our society – that the most rigorous legal standards must apply to any such decision.

Because if such standards did not apply – then many ordinary powerless people – people who may be the victims of unlawful failures by government departments - or who may be victims of criminal acts by people closely allied to those in government – are in jeopardy of being denied the protections of the rule of law.

Denied those protections – if partisan politicians can bring about discriminatory, politicised policing – merely by removing an “inconvenient” Police Chief.

Which is – of course – exactly what Jersey’s political establishment did.

And so much documentary evidence for the manifest criminality of Jersey’s public authorities is now in the public domain that it takes an active determination to look away from it. Yet such is the festering and accusatory toxicity of it, some in Jersey and in London would sooner gaze upon Medusa.

The really horrifying thing, is that there is more to come.

Things you just couldn’t make up.

In the mean time, the letter from Deputy Police Chief Warcup, to Home Affairs Minister Andrew Lewis can be read here:

http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/02/warcup-letter-operation-end-game.html

What does this piece of evidence – and other facts – tell us about the lawfulness – or otherwise – of the actions of Lewis in his capacity as Home Affairs Minister?

For the Minister’s – for any public authority’s decision to be lawful – the information that the decision is based upon must be accurate. It must be true in all reasonable and relevant respects. Information and advice being provided to any ‘public body’ such as a Minister must also be complete. It must not omit ‘relevant’ information, nor include ‘irrelevant’ information. Warcup’s letter fails all of those basic, established legal tests.

Therefore – on those grounds alone – the consequent decision of Lewis – of the Home Affairs Minister – was unlawful.

But it doesn’t stop there.

It is also very clearly established in the case-law concerning the standards of decision-making by public bodies, that the information, advice and guidance being provided to a public authority in order to inform a decision, must also be fair and balanced. If the information going to the public authority making the decision is unbalanced and biased – then any consequent decision of that authority is unlawful.

The manner in which Warcup presented information in the letter did not only fail to be balanced, in some innocent error – rather it was calculated and structured to generate and support a false and unlawful decision.

In fact – considering the material furnished to the Minister by Warcup and Ogley – and the nature of their conduct – the resultant decision of the Minister is unlawful – and thus vitiated – on most of the grounds established by judicial review: procedural unfairness, unreasonableness, errors of fact, proportionality, inconsistency etc.

But there are certain grounds of especial interest to us, upon which the actions of the Minister are unlawful. For example, ‘bad faith / improper motive’, ‘insufficient inquiry’, ‘frustrating the legislative purpose’ - and ‘abdication / fetter’.

One of the most striking and remarkable facts that arise from the letter and the consequent decision of Lewis, is the absence of anything even remotely approaching “sufficient inquiry”. Any Minister receiving information and advice that urged him down the path of any important decision, has a basic duty of care – and of competence and responsibility – to question that advice. And if the decision the Minister is being asked to make is especially unusual and dramatic – a decision of grave magnitude – then the basic responsibility to undertake “sufficient inquiry” is even greater.

It is nothing less than breathtaking that Lewis should have agreed to make a decision to suspend the Police Chief, on the basis of the un-evidenced assertions of Warcup – without so much as even requiring sight of the supposed ‘report’ Warcup was referring to.

Simply staggering.

Had I been a Home Affairs Minister who received a sudden letter of that nature – and it was being suggested to me by the author and the Chief Executive that the Chief of Police be suspended – the very first thing I would have done would have been to write to the Police Chief himself, forwarding to him Warcup’s letter, and asking for a written response. I would have also – simultaneously – required sight of the full report that Warcup was basing his assertions on.

The claim that has been made by Lewis, to the effect that he could not see the “Interim Met Report”, is wholly extraordinary. It is simply not true. Any public authority being asked to make a major decision is actually required – by law – to consider the relevant information that the decision is predicated upon. If the information does not form part of a ‘sufficient inquiry’ – then the decision is not lawful.

In fact, any Minister who was being asked to make such an extraordinary decision – but who was then refused access to the relevant information – would have to be stunningly incompetent not to immediately see that the decision he was being asked to make was unsafe – and almost certainly driven by improper motives.

Frankly, had I been Home Affairs Minister, and the approach of Warcup and Ogley been made to me in an effort to make me obstruct and remove the Police Chief – I would have sought the suspension of Warcup. The man’s actions were that strikingly unlawful.

It would take a deliberate effort not to see the actions of Warcup and Ogley as being driven by bad faith and improper motives.

If a public authority makes a decision – and that decision is contaminated by conflicts of interest, than the decision is unlawful. And it is important to understand what administrative law means by that; the person actually making the decision – a Minister – may be free of conflicts, and be acting in good faith – but if those who have been advising him, or furnishing him with information and guidance concerning the decision are conflicted, then the decision is unlawful.

Warcup claimed to be motivated by a concern for good policing. Just how credible was that claim?

I’ll answer that question below – with some information so extraordinary, you couldn’t make it up.

In the mean time, consider those other individuals that were informing and driving the decisions of Lewis – such as Attorney General William Bailhache, Chief Executive Bill Ogley and Chief Minister Frank Walker.

William Bailhache as Attorney General was the source of all legal “advice” provided to Jersey government departments – and had been for some years. That advice had been so crushingly and catastrophically defective as to have permitted several States of Jersey departments to be pursuing policies that were manifestly illegal. For example, policies that led to entire regimes of corporate child abuse by Jersey government departments.

He was also Jersey’s sole prosecuting authority – thus plainly giving a direct conflict of interests in wishing to minimise the scope and scale of all files for prosecution landing on his desk from the police. After all, just how problematic is it going to be – to have to consider bringing criminal charges against the same government departments that you have been defectively advising?

And how deeply problematic for William Bailhache – that one of the most powerfully suspected child abusers in Jersey’s civil service – a man the police were very eager to prosecute – happens to be a golfing friend of yours?

The conflict of interests becomes multiplied yet further, when it is noted that William Bailhache was the senior partner of the law firm Bailhache LaBesse – when that firm catastrophically failed a number of its young legal aid clients in 1998 – when those clients were abuse victims of the States of Jersey’s Blanche Pierre Group Home.

William Bailhache was the source of legal “advice” and direction – behind the actions of Ogley, Warcup and Lewis. On those grounds alone it is not possible for the decisions of Lewis to have been remotely lawful.

What then of the fact the Chief Executive, Bill Ogley, was playing such an instrumental and pro-active role in engineering the constructive dismissal of Police Chief Graham Power?

It was not lawful for Ogley to have been involved – at all – in any actions concerning Graham Power and the child abuse investigations. Ogley was in charge of the civil service that was in many ways the key focus of the police investigations. Indeed – so well-documented is the history of the criminal conduct of Jersey’s civil service in unlawfully concealing child abuse over the decades, that various formal criminal complaints had been made against various senior civil servants.

Amongst those suspected of acting criminally in terms of conspiring to pervert the course of justice and of committing misconduct in a public office were immediate friends and colleagues of Ogley – and Ogley himself.

In July 2007, Ogley had led a meeting of certain senior civil servants at which they were illegally conspiring to engineer my dismissal as Health & Social Services Minister because I had uncovered a range of very serious child protection failures. We know that that meeting occurred – because Graham Power was present, and Ogley attempted to involve him in that illegal conspiracy. The Police Chief made a contemporaneous file-note at Police Headquarters to record the facts.

Bill Ogley - in so many ways – epitomised the very despicable, self-protecting criminality that lies at the heart of so many decades of concealed child protection failure in Jersey. A highly paid, supposed professional – in fact betraying the vulnerable and the public interest, and lying, and acting criminally to protect himself and his colleagues from accountability and scrutiny.

The failure of a Home Affairs Minister to insulate and protect his formal decision-making process as a public authority from such toxic and starkly corrupt influence renders any decisions he made manifestly unlawful.

Then there is the well-documented role played by the then Chief Minister, Frank Walker.

Walker was instrumental in driving forward the conspiracy to have Police Chief Graham Power suspended. We know from evidence painstakingly gathered that the original claims by Lewis – to the effect he had no concerns about the performance of Graham Power until the 11th November - to be lies. People like Bailhache, Lewis, Ogley and Walker had been seeking to engineer the dismissal of Graham Power for months. The question then arises, was it in any way lawful, for the Chief Minister to have been influencing the decisions of the Home Affairs Minister?

And perhaps even more significantly – was it in any way lawful for a Chief Minister – Frank Walker – to have had any involvement of any kind at all – in any attempts to obstruct, sabotage or remove the Police Chief – when the police under the leadership of that Chief were pursuing a very serious criminal investigation against a close friend and business associate of Walker’s?

Any involvement – of any kind – by Frank Walker in any of the pressure, actions or decisions that led to the suspension of Graham Power – was unlawful.

And I don’t just mean unlawful in the civil sense of it rendering null and vitiated the actions of the Home Affairs Minister.

I mean illegal – in the criminal sense.

Here is a quote from the Judicial Review Handbook, from the section that deals with unlawful decisions of public authorities when the authority has ‘abdicated or fettered’ the power that is conferred exclusively upon it by law:

“Acting under dictation: A public body must not surrender its independent judgment to a third party. Nor must one public body bring about the surrender of another public body’s independent judgment.”

Andrew Lewis, in his capacity as Home Affairs Minister – failed that test; a test very powerfully established in the case-law.

Not only did he surrender and abdicate the independent judgment his Office should have exhibited – he surrendered it to other, directly conflicted, public bodies – and surrendered it to directly and starkly conflicted individuals – such as Bailhache, Ogley and Walker.

We are left with only the stark fact – that the public authority of Home Affairs Minister lost all contact with lawful conduct – and was instead adrift on a tide of conspiracy, illegality and perversion for improper purposes.

And if further proof were needed – further proof that the object of the exercise had been to sabotage effective policing by permitting direct interference in policing matters by non-police third-parties – let us ask the question how did things go after the unlawful coup against Graham Power?

I mentioned earlier some information that was so extraordinary, you couldn’t make it up.

The police ‘Gold Command Group’ established by David Warcup routinely involved in its meetings senior representatives from directly conflicted organisations – and directly conflicted individuals.

The actual police Gold Command Group was having regular meetings – at which it permitted non-police third-parties to influence and inform its decisions and strategies.

The organisations that Warcup had participating in these meetings actually included the Heath and Social Services department – and the Chief Minister’s department. Both public authorities that were subject to criminal complaints of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice in respect of the child abuse cover-ups.

Not insane enough?

At certain of Warcup’s Gold Command Group meetings, the Health and Social Services department was actually represented by the Deputy Chief Executive of that department – and the Chief Minster’s department was represented by the Chief Executive, Bill Ogley.

Both men who were subject to formal criminal complaint of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, and of misconduct in a public office.

David Warcup, with the backing and direction of William Bailhache and Frank Walker, provides the wholly defective and inadequate and dishonest letter for the purposes of engineering the suspension of Graham Power; that action is carried out by Bill Ogley and Andrew Lewis – and the public of Jersey, and the wider-world are told that it was necessary to improve policing in Jersey, which, supposedly, had been defective under Mr. Power because he and Lenny Harper did not establish a ‘Gold Command Group’ . Warcup has established a Gold Command Group – and with Graham Power off-the-scene, that Group proceeds to become heavily contaminated and perverted with the presence and influence of non-police third-parties – and directly conflicted organisations and individuals with an interest in sabotaging the proper investigation of all the child abuse issues. Just as Graham Power and Lenny Harper knew it would – which is why they didn’t establish one.

I posed a question at the beginning of this article, “what now?”

Where do we – where does Jersey – go from here?

Every one of our relevant public institutions is plainly and on the evidence, embroiled in a complete failure of even the most basic standards of good governance. An anarchic lawless imbroglio that far transcends Watergate in anti-democratic criminality. Ordinary people – the powerless and the vulnerable have been denied the protection of the law – denied it by Jersey’s government. We have an overtly corrupted prosecution system. A good and brave Police Chief gets illegally suspended. Prominent opposition politicians are then subject to police-state repression. We have a court system in which judges, including those recruited by the local syndicate from England, routinely make assertions not even compatible with basic logic, let alone case-law when considering cases that are embarrassing to their friends. Government departments that are under direct criminal suspicion have been allowed to have a seat in the very core of the Police Gold Group overseeing investigations into the actions of those same government departments. Senior civil servants under direct criminal complaint of having conspired to pervert the course of justice to conceal child protection failures sit around the table with the Police investigation team, and contribute to its strategy. Spin-doctors are given access to the witness statements by abuse survivors to write a report the government can then use to try and attack the integrity of the Police investigation. We have a wretched vast catalogue of plain and evidenced lies given by Ministers when answering questions in the Jersey parliament about these issues. And politicians are able to play a direct role in the removal of a Police Chief when the police under that Chief’s leadership are pursuing the most profound and serious of investigations into a close friend and business associate of those politicians.

Where, indeed, do we go from here?

As I wrote in a recent comment:

“Look across Western Europe - you will find no other jurisdiction or enclave as openly corrupt and stagnant in all its public institutions and authorities as Jersey.

Jersey is the “Picture of Dorian Grey” that the British Crown keeps hidden in the attic.”

How did that story end?

Stuart.

124 comments:

Anonymous said...

No mention of Wendy Kinnard. Somehow feel she is a piece in the jigsaw.

Anonymous said...

and what of the rest of Warcups complaints in his famous letter.

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

The rest of Warcup's allegations - which can be read in their entirety in the published evidence on Rico Sorda's blog - largely consist of distortions, errors, failures to understand the ACPO reports and the recommendations therein, the circumstances of Jersey, and outright falsehoods.

What is so remarkable about the Warcup letter is that there is nothing - simply nothing - of substance in it, at all, that even approaches amounting to material grounds for suspending the Police Chief - let alone doing so with the complete abandonment of due process.

And that Graham Power was not given the letter and asked to produce a written response is of itself evidence of the corrupt purposes of Warcup and Ogley's actions.

But a central factor - to always be aware of - is that even if there had been some circumstance that merited some kind of action against Graham Power (which there was not) it would still have been unlawful for any conflicted party to have been involved in it.

Thus Warcup's letter becomes, in some ways, an irrelevance. The really serious issue is the fact that Bailhache, Ogley, Walker etc, were involved - at all.

The involvement of such directly conflicted individuals renders the action against the Police Chief illegal.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

The suspension was approved by the Royal Court so you will just have to eat humble pie.

Anonymous said...

It's like I'm floating around in a haze of a bad dream, knowing that you're utterly right and one of the few sane people on the island; most of the rest of my fellow islanders are under some grand illusion and cannot see the wood for the trees.

It feels like surely I must wake up out this fog of absurdity, some time?!

How much longer will it take for the people of Jersey to see the stark evidenced truth and stop being sheep?

Anonymous said...

There seems to be an inherent contradiction in all this.
If all politicians are conflicted then so is the minister for home affais(MHA)
But the MHA is this only person who can suspend/dismiss a chief of police and I don't think he is able to delegate this responsibility to an outside independent body.
This seems to suggest that the police could act in any way they choose - even illegally - without redress when they are investigating criminal actioms perpetrated by departments within the SOJ.
That is the situation that existed at the time when the MHA suspended the COP.
Note: I'm not saying that the police did act improperly - just asking the question ' to whoom was the COP accountable when the MHA is conflicted.
I ask this question because I believe it will be the MHA defence. They might also say that the MHA cannot act without advice and that the input of the CEO and the HR department is also required in this instance. There was no Independent Police Authority. They had no choice.

Anonymous said...

To answer my own question:
Although conflicted, in this instance, it was incumbent on the MHA to put aside any conficts of interest and to make a decision based on an objective analysis of the evidence.
Is this how you see it?

Anonymous said...

Said it before and say it again now.
It is up to Graham Power to sue the States. The general public will never believe self appointed blogging saviours of Jersey.

Anonymous said...

with the flood of information that has appeared in the blogs over the last few weeks its been difficult to make sense of it all.So thanks for your latest blog Stuart,as it certainly goes a long way to help clarify the whole complicated saga.

xJHB

Anonymous said...

Warcup begins-

"I am writing further to our previous meetings and my previous briefings to the Home Affairs Minister Andrew Lewis."

This suggests that the letter was connected with those meetings and briefings.

However, in a statement to Wiltshire Police, Lewis claimed that he had no concerns regarding the Historic Abuse Enquiry until he received this very letter from Warcup on 11th November 2008.

What then was Lewis being briefed about previously that was relevant to this letter? It can't possibly have been about the apparent failings of the enquiry.

This can only have two explanations.

1. Lewis told Wiltshire the truth and Warcup is lying about briefing him.

2. Warcup did brief Lewis prior to his letter and Lewis lied to the Wiltshire police.

Either way, the truth has not been told.

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says:

"The suspension was approved by the Royal Court so you will just have to eat humble pie."

It wasn't, actually.

Even by the politicised conduct of Jersey's judiciary, the suspension was insupportable. So much so, Le Marquand had to invent a second one.

But in any event, decisions in politically sensitive cases in Jersey's courts are frequently wholly irrational. I reproduce a comment I wrote on VFC:

"The following assertion is just one of the many damning and fatal indictments upon what passes for a judiciary in Jersey:

"The existence of the A.C.P.O. reports was acknowledged by Mr Warcup in his letter of 10th November 2008 where he stated that their advice concerning the development of effective investigative parameters had not been followed. Thus, the complaint of Mr Warcup had been made in the express knowledge of and notwithstanding the A.C.P.O. reports and we agree that sight of the A.C.P.O. reports themselves would not actually assist the Minister without very extensive further inquiries – in effect the precise role being undertaken by the Wiltshire police in Operation Haven. We therefore concluded that the decision not to have regard to the reports themselves was rational and certainly within the range of responses open to a reasonable Minister in his position."

That assertion is - manifestly - insupportable garbage.

Overt sophistry of the most brazen kind.

It is not - and never could be - 'lawful' for the Minister to make a decision of the magnitude and gravity of maintaining a suspension of the Police Chief - without considering extant and readily available evidence.

Evidence, such as the ACPO reports.

Jersey's judiciary operates on an "emperor's new clothes" basis. It is only taken seriously - because people go along with the fantasy - in a kind of fearful Groupthink.

The assertion in that judgment is ethically and intellectually bankrupt.

It is utter cobblers - and an insult to the intelligence.

Think about it for yourself:

If the suspension is based upon the Warcup letter - and the Warcup letter should, apparently, be accorded weight - because its author read and used the ACPO reports - then how it it possible for the ACPO reports to not fall within the documentation that the Minister should reasonably take into consideration?

In effect, the Warcup letter is 'secondary evidence' - one person's opinion of 'primary evidence' - including the ACPO reports. Warcup's opinion is heavily disputed - so what else could any reasonable person - and reasonable decision-making process do, other than go to the primary evidence?

Effectively, the judgment is saying that it is OK for the Minister to engage in an action the magnitude and seriousness of a suspension of the Police Chief - on the basis of one man's opinion of the ACPO reports - but that it would be 'too much work' to read the ACPO reports.

The judgment is saying that it is unreasonable to expect the Minister to undertake "very extensive further inquiries". But - come along - either the ACPO reports are "in" the evidential mix - as they clearly are, because the judgment quotes Warcup's claims concerning them - or the ACPO reports are "out" of the evidential mix - in which case their existence should have played zero role in the judgment.

The Jersey oligarhcy can't have it both ways - the evidence "in" for them, when it suits their purposes - and "out" for the other side when the evidence becomes inconveniente for the oligarhcy.

But yet - that is how we see Jersey's judiciary conducting itself, time and time again.

People should note the judgment - and remember it - and realise just what it means."

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Stuart.

So why isnt Chief of Police Bowran saying enough is enough?

Is it because he feels Le Marquand, Gorst, and Richardson will do the same to him as Lewis, Walker and Ogley did to G Power?

You did put a criminal complaint into Bowran reasently. Have you had any response?


And if not do you expect one or can you demand one?

Anonymous said...

Anon says
'The suspension was approved by the Royal Court so you will just have to eat humble pie.'
THIS IS NOT TRUE
The royal court was highly critical of the original suspension despite the fact that the original suspension was outside their frame of reference!!

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says:

"If all politicians are conflicted then so is the minister for home affairs(MHA)".

No - the MHA is NOT inherently conflicted.

Nor is it necessarily axiomatic that ALL other politicians are conflicted in the sense of submitting their views to the MHA in respect of decisions he is making. But those other government departments have no more right to influence a 'discretionary decision' of the MHA, than does any member of the public.

However - those other politicians do become utterly conflicted - if the departments in question - and especially conflicted individuals in those departments - have a direct conflict of interests in the matter at hand. Which was exactly the case in Jersey. Which is why the involvement of such departments / individuals was wholly unlawful in this context.

I am curious as to why the reader makes this strange assertion:

"This seems to suggest that the police could act in any way they choose - even illegally - without redress when they are investigating criminal actions perpetrated by departments within the SOJ."

No - it suggest nothing of the kind. The police are able to chose how they investigate crimes - are able to chose their operational methodologies. Indeed, the power to do so must be inherent in the very concept of independent, non-politicised policing.

And on the other hand - the police are NOT permitted to act illegally. Quiet regardless of any opinion or authority of any MHA - the police must act lawfully. If they do not - then they are susceptible to charging and prosecution and civil legal claims.

It is, therefore, absurd to suggests that the police operate without "redress". They are answerable to the courts, just as is every other authority.

It is also nonsense to imply, as the reader does, that there was any kind of 'improper' or 'unlawful' conduct on the part of the police at the time when they were investigating other Jersey government departments. Not even after all of the massive and expensive efforts of the Jersey oligarhcy, has so much as one, single such claim even been made - let alone sustained. That fact is, actually, a truly remarkable feature of the Warcup letter.

Not even it contains any such credible claim.

But as the reader correctly observes in his own answer - the legal requirement upon a MHA is that he make a decision lawfully. And for it to be lawful, it must meet certain standards. For example, it must be based upon 'objective' advice - upon 'non-conflicted' guidance - upon a full and proportionate consideration of all 'relevant' material.

Indeed, the more there might be credible grounds for considering a MHA to be at risk of an administrative conflict of interests - and the more grave and serious the decisions - the stronger and stronger becomes the requirement for the very highest standards of objective and impartial decision-making to be met.

But in this case, the MHA did the opposite; if there were defective and unlawful steps available, invariably, those were the ones he chose.

The particular individual in this case - Andrew Lewis - is actually stupid and ignorant. He suffers from that self-deluding vanity almost universal amongst Jersey oligarchs in that the consider themselves intelligent because traditionally they've never faced any serious opposition and challenge. We saw that syndrome exposed when Walker utterly fell to pieces - simply disintegrated - when under the scrutiny of real journalists for the first time in his life.

Andrew Lewis now faces the very real prospect of being prosecuted and jailed for conspiracy to pervert the course of justice and for misconduct in a public office. Not an intelligent position to have placed himself in.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Posted on the rag! not that they will put it up.

"JERSEY’S new foreign minister says that there should be regular visits abroad to ‘ram home’ the message that the Island is not a tax haven."

Ive not laughed so much for such a long time, this newspaper couldn't tell the truth if they were repeatedly bashed with it.

Before we had the internet and information was not as quick to pan around the world, most people KNEW Jersey as a TAX HAVEN.

Anonymous said...

You are correct ... my question was unclear ... I'll try again...
The MHA claimed that the COP acted improperly and had to be suspended.
Assume that the HA department (or some of it's members) was one of the departments being investigated for criminal acts at the time when the MHA was making the claim that the COP was acting improperly and had to be suspended.
The MHA is conflicted because his department is the subject of a criminal investigation.
But the MHA is the only person with the authority to sanction the COP in the event that the COP has acted improperly.
So the hypothetical question is :
can a conflicted MHA use his powers to sanction a COP in the event that the COP has acted improperly
NOTE I do not believe for one second that the COP has acted improperly, but, hypothetically, if he had, to whom would he be accountable other than the conflicted MHA? He has to be accountable to someone.

Anonymous said...

Or to put it another way...
Question for ILM
Was the HA department (or members of that Department} the subject of a police investigation at the time of the suspension of the COP.
If so, is it right and proper that the MHA should maintain the power to suspend the COP whilst this investigation was in progress given that, by virtue of his office, the COP was also a component in this investigation.

Anonymous said...

I'm still waiting to hear a good difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance!

Jersey Finance swears there is one, and they promote the good one, but I'm damned if I can see a difference.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 1048 with the agenda which is definitely not sympathetic to the abuse victims and the truth - Get real!! Why do you persist in trying to cast doubt on Graham Power and Lenny Harper by pretending that suing in the Jersey courts is a viable option. Who do you think would be hearing the case? Those who have been at the forefront of the cover up. That's who. But of course you know that already.

Lorna Savage said...

Anonymous wrote "The suspension was approved by the Royal Court so you will just have to eat humble pie."

Even if this was true - which it clearly isn't - there would be no need for Stuart to eat humble pie. A judiciary which is so clearly conflicted is not to be taken seriously.

Lorna

Lorna Savage said...

I have noticed that recently the word verification is making me use more than one word each time before it will publish even when it is a really simple word which I have spelt correctly!

Lorna

Rob Kent said...

Mr Bailhache can make as many trips to Brussels as he likes but he won't dent the common opinion in Belgium and France that Jersey is 'un paradis fiscal', and highly stigmatised for it.

I used to work in Brussels and still visit it occasionally. They even used to view London as a tax haven (which it is, by the way).

voiceforchildren said...

Stuart.

An ill-informed reader says;

"The suspension was approved by the Royal Court so you will just have to eat humble pie."

As you have correctly pointed out, this is not true, but then again with our Royal Court anything could be true but not in this instance.

On the original (possibly illegal) suspension the Royal Court was critical stopping short of calling it illegal as explained by the Former Police Chief.

"Although the Royal Court, in considering my application for Judicial Review, was not able to formally pass judgement on the initial suspension, it did say “we feel constrained to voice our serious concern as to the fairness of the procedure apparently adopted by the Previous Minister.” (Published judgement of the Royal Court, paragraph 19.)" More can be read HERE

On the Le Marquand suspension the Royal Court ruled that he acted within his powers (Le Marquand). They did not, and could not, rule whether he was right or wrong to suspend Mr. Power.

Anonymous said...

Lorna, for the last couple of weeks the word verification from Blogger has been broken if you preview then publish - it fails until you go back to the main edit screen and type another one and then publish immediately without preview.

Knowing them, they'll probably fix it in a year or two.

Gris Ventre said...

Somewhat off subject there is a nice piece about our old friend Jonathan Sumption in this weeks Private Eye on p15, where it is claimed he has "earnt" some £10m representing Roman Abramovich and delayed his new appointment to the Supreme Court so that he can complete the Abramovitch case.

Stuart, as they say in Private eye keep up the good work

voiceforchildren said...

Stuart.

How Things Are Done In JERSEY

Lorna Savage said...

Thanks Anon at 17.56. Glad to know it isn't personal. Hope they fix the word verification in the next millenium.

Lorna

Ian Evans said...

BRIDGET SHAW!!!

Anonymous said...

If Graham Power had the option of suing in a completely non-conflicted and unbiased court, based on the normal accepted rules of common law, he would win his case on simple evidence. The problem is that he has little likelihood of such natural justice without there first being greater international pressure applied to force Jersey and UK compliance with their own laws.

That is what we can expect to see with the inevitable publicity given to the evidence, at least once the right journalists and public authorities finally take this past the tipping point.

This will happen. There is simply no way for the clear factual story to remain covered up when the cover up artists are so illogical in making their case. The facts are one-sided. It is an objective certainty that Graham Power's argument would prevail in any fair judicial setting, especially in the court of international public opinion. Only in Jersey would the public fail to absorb this.

Anonymous said...

"....The Jersey oligarhcy can't have it both ways - the evidence "in" for them, when it suits their purposes - and "out" for the other side when the evidence becomes inconveniente for the oligarchy....."

No offence, but isn't that the jersey way full stop?

Jersey is in the 'UK' when it suits them. And not when it's not? Same said for the EU. It's ingrained in the Jersey psyche in my opinion.

And to anon at 15:33...

"Was the HA department (or members of that Department} the subject of a police investigation at the time of the suspension of the COP."

This is a very good question, someone some where was starting to feel hot under the collar with Graham Power in office. Knowing he would not tow "the Jersey way". Knowing he would not abide by the unwritten code of conduct that Jersey's "accredited media" are bound by.

Who is it the MHA is protecting? Himself? Lewis? Walker? Ogley? Someone else?

We know from Lenny's previous postings that there were individuals in the upper echelons that were implicated in the whole child abuse scandal. Who are they? If we knew then this whole farce would make sense. Lenny please tell us. What would happen if you let the cat out of the bag?

And to the individual that keeps on about the fact that Lenny or Graham should sue the SOJ.....get real!!! We have already seen how the courts operate with Stuart's case. They decide what is evidence and what is not. Stuart has already highlighted how screwed the whole system is.

And to the point about the "SOJP still have to act within the law"....rubbish!! I give you Curtis Warren!! Enough said.

And on a final note, Andrew Lewis is in my opinion a liar. And if i had to choose i would say it was....

"2. Warcup did brief Lewis prior to his letter and Lewis lied to the Wiltshire police."

Anonymous said...

The involvement of such directly conflicted individuals renders the action against the Police Chief illegal.

There is now all this evidence in public domain but what is there being done to follow it up,if it was any other member of the public steps would have been taken already (yourself as example)to the courts etc?

Anonymous said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_noncompliance#Difference_between_avoidance_and_evasion

Whatever the technical and semantic difference, the practical and moral result is the same. Not paying your fair share.

Anonymous said...

Could Mr Power not take his case to the committee in Jersey which looks in to wrongfull dismissal from the workplace.?

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

That is funny.

There is not one regulatory authority - not one check and balance in Jersey - that works; that is not captured and "owned" by the Jersey oligarchy.

Even the judges are bent.

If there were any effective regulation and protection against abuses of power in Jersey, things would have never got to this state of anarchic lawlessness.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Stuart

You have established the fact that checks and balances do not exist in Jersey, and the same parallel claim can be made by Lenny Harper and Graham Power, with factual evidence. An elegant, tailor made case for Strasbourg, correct?

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Here is a profound example of evidence that further displays the fundamental unreliability and misfeasance of Andrew Lewis.

Lewis, as Home Affairs Minister, received the letter from Warcup. Although he has flatly contradicted himself in various statements, one of Lewis’s evolving positions was that he had no concerns about the investigation - until he received the Warcup letter.

As it is – even if receiving such a letter in a vacuum – with no pre-existing knowledge or understanding of the subject – still, a Home Affairs Minister would have been legally bound to undertake “sufficient inquiry”.

But was Lewis in such a state of ignorance? No. By his own admittance he had a prior understanding.

But, the question might be asked – what was the quality of Lewis’s prior knowledge? Was it just some casual and vague ‘impression’ that he had? Is it in any way “understandable” for him to have received the Warcup letter – and just accepted it immediately - and to have had no grounds for questioning its accuracy?

Here is a quote from Graham Power’s statement to the Wilshire investigation, in which he is referring to the oversight given to Operation Rectangle by the Homicide Working Group (H.W.G.) of ACPO:

“158. I note that the feedback given to the Minister for Home Affairs was even more positive. In a statement dated 7th May 2009 Andrew Lewis speaks of his briefings by the H.W.G. and states in paragraph 8, "When I received their report with the recommendations, I was told by Andy Baker that the investigation was a 'shining example' of how an investigation of this type should be run and that they were satisfied that the S.I.O. was doing a good job.””

Home Affairs Minister Andrew Lewis – in his statement to Wiltshire – says that he had received reports, and briefings from no less an authority than Andre Baker – of the ACPO H.W.G. – to the effect that Operation Rectangle was a “shining example” of how these investigations should be run.

So, on the one hand, Lewis has received written reports from ACPO, and briefings from the head of ACPO’s Homicide Working Group, that endorse the leadership and management of the child abuse investigation. And – on the other hand – he receives an un evidenced letter – containing a variety of obvious misrepresentations, falsehoods and distortions from Warcup – and he chooses – instantly – to accept – without further inquiry – the claims of Warcup.

And completely discount the detailed reports of ACPO – and the opinion of one of Britain’s leading specialist detectives – which he had already received.

The actions of Lewis – damned by his own words.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

It is not possible for any victims to make a claim for damages in Jersey as they are all corrupt and many high up members of the government would be implicated in the cover-up of abuse.

I don’t expect this newspaper to put this post up as it maybe to controversial for the sister paper The Jersey Evening Post who form part of the cover-up of decades of child abuse, So I will mirror this post across the Jersey blogger sites with a referral link.

Signatures will help bring change for child abuse survivors

Zoompad said...

Stuart, someone has left a comment on Ricos blog about the possibility of Rob kent getting a book together. Please, can you Jersey bloggers get that book written and published?

Anonymous said...

Stuart

You have raised a very important point about Home Affairs Minister Andrew Lewis ..."– in his statement to Wiltshire – says that he had received reports, and briefings from no less an authority than Andre Baker – of the ACPO H.W.G. – to the effect that Operation Rectangle was a 'shining example' of how these investigations should be run."

One can't imagine any member of the Jersey MSM ever acknowledging even this simple truth. They have all fallen too far in to the quicksand of their own lies.

It is fascinating, really, how they must truly believe they can spin themselves out of their complicity.

There are fewer than 70,000 potential consumers of their hackery, and almost a half million readers who have come across your blog.

I suspect the time is near when the people who know the truth will far exceed those who believe the demonstrable lies of Jersey MSM, and all who do believe such nonsense will be in Jersey.

Sooner or later the BBC role will open up this Jersey MSM scandal to an international readership of much greater numbers. That will re-open the door to the child abuse investigation itself, which was corrupted with the knowing help of BBC Jersey.

Jersey residents who limit their knowledge to what is spun and spoon-fed through that state run media will loudly proclaim themselves innocent.

The media consumers and even the locally employed reporters will cry out, "We didn't know! We didn't know!"

The rest of us should retain copies of our very many (unanswered) links, news tips and complaints to BBC. They knew. They know. They have known.

Anonymous said...

I agree get a book out there and do interviews with the National Accredited Media ASAP. This story of the century is wasted on blogs because they are not getting the publicity. Can somebody do a press release and arrange a press conference?

Anonymous said...

I think Jersey residents are rather bored by it all but hoping Stuart can find something positive to do with the rest of his life.

Anonymous said...

'There are fewer than 70,000 potential consumers of their hackery, and almost a half million readers who have come across your blog.'


How do we know this-I can't see any counter anywhere?

voiceforchildren said...

Stuart.

The BBC

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says:

"I think Jersey residents are rather bored by it all but hoping Stuart can find something positive to do with the rest of his life."

Yes, I suspect you're right about most Jersey residents being bored by it all. But your point is?

Should we be gauging the value of our moral efforts according to whether the average person is interested in the cause?

A kind of 'market' judgment upon values?

A democracy of amoral dissolution?

And in respect of what I'm doing, I don't enter the thoughts of most Jersey residents, but should any of them think about me, they can rest assured that I am doing something positive with my life.

More positive than most people ever contemplate doing with theirs.

Stuart.

Anonymous said...

from the Mailonline
"The BBC shelved a Newsnight investigation into allegations that Sir Jimmy Savile sexually abused teenage girls at its studios, it has been revealed."

Anonymous said...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/britain-seizes-control-of-scandalhit-dependency-1772511.html

When are they going to come and help us?
Also, I'm a Jersey born resident and I'm not bored with this at all.

Anonymous said...

@ anon Friday, 10 February 2012 10:17:00 GMT

And Jimmy's casket is covered in concrete ...

The Beano is not the Rag

Anonymous said...

"'There are fewer than 70,000 potential consumers of their hackery, and almost a half million readers who have come across your blog.'


How do we know this-I can't see any counter anywhere?

Friday, 10 February 2012 09:08:00 GMT"

The latest figures for local newspaper sales are for Q1 2011 and show that the rag having average daily sales of 18,088: pressgazette.com

There should be a counter at the bottom of Stuart's Blog home page. For me at least on my PC, it is a bit hit or mess as to whether it appears or not.

The Beano is not the Rag

Anonymous said...

If the JEP sells 18,000 copies a day then each week they gain approximately 54 grand in sales. You can probably add another 30 grand in advertising plus the income they derive from the other local publications they produce.

Lets for srguments sake say they make 100 grand a week. That's still a £5million a year concern.

Of course the production costs will be huge but sadly I'd say there not going to dissapear any time soon.

But it does raise an interesting question. How much of that income could be attained if a competitor entered the market?

If I was asked to be a potential investor in a new publication the first thing I'd want to know is how can we get the other 88 thousand people living in Jersey to buy a copy.

Interesting isn't it?

Now where can I get my hands on a copy of their annual report and accounts?

Anonymous said...

It is surely time for many folk in Jersey to email or write to the Foreign Office Minister Chris Bryant about the goings on in Jersey.

Anonymous said...

In the opening of Warcup's infamous letter he states:
'...I believe that there is a strong public interest in making the following disclosures and that it is right and proper to do so to maintain the integrity and confidence in the States of Jersey Police, and also to ensure that the public interest is properly served in seeking to resolve these issues.'
Then in last week's States sitting ILM says theat he 'is not minded to' make Warcup's letter public because it is not in the public interest!!

Warcup: It is in the public interest
ILM : It is not in the public interest
Warcup: It is, 'cos I say it is.
ILM : It's not, 'cos I say it's not.
Warcup: Oh yes it is.
ILM : Oh no it's not.
Warcup: It is.
ILM : It's not
Warcup: It is when I want it to be
ILM : It's not when I don't want it to be
Warcup: That's fine then
ILM: Yes that's fine. We are in agreement. I'll do a press release.

Anonymous said...

Careful, Stuart. The anonymous comment above at 15:35 GMT is taking an out of context quote from a tongue-in-cheek comment by Phil on another blog. Phil's comment was obviously made in a nod to "Yes Minister."

Given that your blog and reader comments serve as a vital record of real evidence and referenced quotes, we should clarify that was only a hypothetical conversation between ILM and Warcup and did not take place. This is especially important in light of the real absurdity of ILM and Warcup, neither of whom should require any exaggerated quotes of their numerous dishonest and inept statements.

Anonymous said...

What an ironic troll you have. The one who posts frequent comments saying no body is interested in the topics on this and the other related blogs. Isn't it well known they are from someone who sits around drinking and wetting himself in a rage over his "disinterest" in your topics? That is HIS whole life. He will not understand that investing your own time in seeking what is true and just is the life worthy of living.

Anonymous said...

where do we send the letters?

Anonymous said...

Spineless States Members. The only way that this rock can be sorted out is by anarchy. Can you not see that the government is walking over us because we let them? They think that we won't revolt, that's why they are treating us with utter contempt. It's time to sort this rock out. We need people like Churchill who would not betray his own people.

Anonymous said...

I copied this from Rico's blog and it sums it up for me.

"There are currently still a number of cases proceeding through the criminal justice system."

What Justice system?

The Justice System that is loaded against the victims?

The Justice System let drags its feet so slowly that some victims have taken their own lives long before they see justice.

The Justice System that's riddled with freemasons who swear an oath to their friends and freemasonry to keep the shadows of abused victims falling on them and has done so for many generations.

The Justice System so conflicted that it has as its arch villains the very people ultimately were and are responsible for the decades of cover-up of some of the worst kinds of behaviour one could imagine, who then moralise how good a job they done.

Justice

Anonymous said...

Another day passes with just the same and nothing changes or happens. How much longer does this go on for?

Anonymous said...

anotiziYou can email Chris directly at bryantc@parliament.uk

Ian Evans said...

REVISED COMMENT WORTHY OF PUBLICATION!

"Spineless States Members. The only way that this rock can be sorted out is by anarchy. Can you not see that the government is walking over us because we let them? They think that we won't revolt, that's why they are treating us with utter contempt. It's time to sort this rock out. We need people like Churchill who would not betray his own people."



"Spineless States Members"
You look to others for your own freedom?

"The only way that this rock can be sorted out is by anarchy"
All Anarchy ever sorted out was the instigator of it !!!

"Can you not see that the government is walking over us because we let them?"
They are not walking over me, simply because I do not let them.

"They think that we won't revolt, that's why they are treating us with utter contempt"
What have you done to date that is so 'revolting'? NOTHING, I will wager....

"We need people like Churchill who would not betray his own people"
Can you not rely on yourself to fulfil this role? You talk like the sheepdog, in control of the sheep, whilst under orders from the shepherd!!!

WE NEED REAL SUPPORT, not nonsensical crap from someone who worships a long dead man who DID crap on the British people!!!

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Churchill was a flawed man and a flawed leader, to be sure. One need only examine the historic record of his performance, both as a military officer and as a politician.

But, on the other hand - cometh the hour, cometh the man.

As much as his blinkeredness and belligerence were failings on so many occasions - when it came to fighting the historic evil of the Nazis - maybe he was just what the world needed.

Right man at the right time.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Someone made a comment about making the best of your life. Being a professional litigant on taxpayers money and dependant upon social security would not be something to boast about to your grandchildren. With your undoubted linguistic skills you might waste no time in getting a teacher qualification where you could constructivley apply your talents.

rico sorda said...

http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/02/metropolitan-interim-police-report.html

RS

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says:

"Someone made a comment about making the best of your life. Being a professional litigant on taxpayers money and dependant upon social security would not be something to boast about to your grandchildren. With your undoubted linguistic skills you might waste no time in getting a teacher qualification where you could constructivley apply your talents."

Nah - that would be wasting my time. You forget - I'm a "criminal" now - so no matter what qualifications and career I attempted to pursue, I'm destined to remain frozen-out of any worthwhile job. So why bother?

But - now you mention it - being a criminal hasn't been an obstruction to becoming a magistrate in Jersey - nor an Attorney General - nor a Bailiff.

Nor was it any obstacle to becoming the Chief Executive of the Education Department.

But still - I think it a much more worthwhile and substantial career, to be pursuing the exposure and cleaning-up of Jersey's despicable state-mafia. Admittedly, one doesn't get paid for doing it - but as history shows us, the most necessary of tasks were rarely materialy rewarding.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Extract from comment made by Graham Power on Rico's blog:
'I am confident that through this process senior government figures in the UK have been made aware of the severe misgivings of the Police Service with regard to the integrity and fairness of the arrangements for the oversight of policing in Jersey. The correspondent may also be interested to know that I am in regular personal contact with some of the senior figures in UK policing and that I am grateful for their support and their regular expressions of disgust at the conduct of a jusrisdiction in the British Isles and under the British Crown, and of their low regard for those in authority who were responsible for the conduct of my case."

Anonymous said...

I notice that the links i put on your blog have not been put up, hey its no suprise to me given your a politician and are tarnished with the Jersey way yourself. All those decades of abuse when you were in power and nothing was done untill the tipping point, WHERE WERE YOU ???? THEN STUART????

Anonymous said...

I tried to publish a comment several times on Friday/Saturday without success.

Has anyone else had problems recently? Is it another blogspot glitch, or something else?

Anonymous said...

"Someone made a comment about making the best of your life. Being a professional litigant on taxpayers money and dependant upon social security would not be something to boast about to your grandchildren."

Is enforcing modern democratic standards on a corrupt feudalistic system less impressive when done through appellate courts than on the battlefield?

You can be assured any child who is brought up with or independently develops strong ethical values will look up to those who risk everything they have to bring fairness and justice to children harmed by Jersey's cruel renegade system. What could be simpler?

Elle

Anonymous said...

"I notice that the links i put on your blog have not been put up, hey its no suprise to me given your a politician and are tarnished with the Jersey way yourself. All those decades of abuse when you were in power and nothing was done untill the tipping point, WHERE WERE YOU ???? THEN STUART????"

Well, not sure what the links are too but one thing we can be sure of is Stuart is HERE now. Where are you? Still denying or still helping to brush it under the carpet.

One thing is for certain, as soon as Stuart, whilst in power, brought up the subject he was thrown out. What was the tipping point do you think? Maybe Stuart can answer that. Regardless of a TIPPING point the simple fact is that he has spoken out against abuse. Is that a problem for you? Or, should it just be a case of no problem here lads lets just try and forget it even happened because people like you say so?

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says:

"I notice that the links i put on your blog have not been put up, hey its no suprise to me given your a politician and are tarnished with the Jersey way yourself. All those decades of abuse when you were in power and nothing was done untill the tipping point, WHERE WERE YOU ???? THEN STUART????"

I get a lot of comments submitted that contain links, so I can't be certain of the ones you refer to - although I suspect they dealt with the subject of Ted Heath - and how child abuse is often axiomatically covered-up precisely because knowing a person committed child abuse is one of the most conveniently dramatic and powerful ways of controlling them for ever more; a "lever" over the powerful, beloved of gangsters and security forces everywhere.

I did not publish those links because the articles in question - after stating certain credible suspicions - then went off into full-blown crypto-nazi, shape-shifting space alien lizard bonkeroony cobblers - with so many of the "usual suspects" cited, that it could have been a parody.

The Bilderberg Group are behind it all, right? Some of these sites might as well just quote mein kampf and stop beating about the bush.

No - I'm not carrying links to irrational, paranoiac, crypto-racist fantasies - and I make no apologies.

As far as "where was I" when Jersey child abuse was being systematically concealed for decades by the island's public authorities?

I - like most other relevant politicians (I do most of them the service of assuming they too were lied to and mislead by omission) - was having the truth deliberately concealed from me.

But - as the historic record shows - something was done - by me - once I had learnt the truth in-spite of the calculated obstruction by the civil servants. I spoke out against the child protection failures - and tried to clean-up the system.

That moment began when I answered a question in the States assembly in July 2007.

I was the 'tipping-point'.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Stuart.

What is your next plan of action?

Is there any more action you can take in Jersey?

Or is it London next?

Or is it only Strausburg to concentrate on now?

Please keep your loyal readers/supporters, informed.

voiceforchildren said...

Stuart.

The BBC, IMPARTIAL, BALANCED, HONEST?

Ian Evans said...

JERSEY ALL OVER AGAIN

Anonymous said...

Slowly slowly the noose is closing around the neck of the BBC Jersey traitors to journalism. And their masters.

Anonymous said...

The lunatics HAVE taken over the asylum !


I have just watched a fascinating programme on the iplayer:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b014kj65/Horizon_20112012_Are_You_Good_or_Evil/


It starts off fine but it gets interesting from 26:00 with research by Professor Bob Hare into Psychopaths.

& very interesting from 43:30 covering Psychopath's infiltration of business (and presumably politics & banking !)

Psychopathic mimicry is easily mistaken for leadership qualities and the Psychopath is able to use whatever is necessary to achieve their goals: charm, manipulation, intimidation ..............

at 47:00 comes the analysis of their actual performance - and IT IS ALL TALK and their performance is actually DISMAL !!!!


Why can't I help thinking of certain of our politicians in this context. I don't know Walker but I have spoken to many people who do and he seems to tick many of the boxes :-o

A few more out there but it would probably be mischievous to encourage Stuart to suggest names :-)


It turns out that childhood trauma/abuse is apparently necessary to turn a genetic Psychopath into a killer.


Some more background on Professor Hare's ork is available at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist


.......according to specific criteria through file information and a semi-structured interview. "A value of 0 is assigned if the item does not apply, 1 if it applies somewhat, and 2 if it fully applies. In addition to lifestyle and criminal behavior the checklist assesses glib and superficial charm, grandiosity, need for stimulation, pathological lying, conning and manipulating, lack of remorse, callousness, poor behavioral controls, impulsivity, irresponsibility, failure to accept responsibility for one's own actions and so forth."


& based on the BBC programme:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8735926/One-in-25-business-leaders-could-be-a-psychopath.html

"While some psychopaths are outwardly aggressive and destructive, factors like a happy upbringing can help others to mimic colleagues and fit in at work.

The capacity of the 'successful psychopath' to identify and outwardly display the qualities corporate leaders admire helps them climb the career ladder quickly despite being poor managers. "

Simultaneously scary and amusing.
H

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Ref psychopathy.

I haven't the seen the particular program you refer to, but I have read about the subject and it is, as you say, interesting and scary.

A misconception is that psychopaths are all like Hannibal Lecter - or, at least, all dangerously violent with many of them being killers. The vast majority of psychopaths - those who fit the diagnostic schema you describe - are never violent, and lead ordinary lives within society.

Once you've read about the subject, you will be able to identify a certain number of people you know, who display clear signs of psychopathy.

Another symptom - perhaps one of the key symptoms - is a complete absence of empathy. Psychopaths are a 'world unto themselves' - and do not understand the emotions of other people in the sense of experiencing similar emotions themselves. When we, as normal people, see someone suffering, we feel some of that suffering and distress ourselves; we understand what the person is going through. A psychopath will not experience that empathy. Indeed, a psychopathic individual who encounters another person in distress might find that person's vulnerability an opportunity to exercise power and sadism over them.

Certainly there are a number of politicians who display psychopathy. The strong conclusion would have to be that the number of individuals in the States assembly who are calculating, solipsistic, superficially charming, but in truth only really interested in themselves - and devoid of real empathy - is substantially above the average incidence to be found in society.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Gradwell leaked information!!has no one in authority got the balls to bring this git to justice?

Anonymous said...

'Indeed, a psychopathic individual who encounters another person in distress might find that person's vulnerability an opportunity to exercise power..'

Does this statement remind you of anyone ?

Anonymous said...

Hi Stuart.
(Ref psychopathy)

The film covers and confirms much of what you said @10:07

Like most mental issues I imagine that the psychopath trait is not clear cut but occurs as a "spectrum" which is present in many people to a lesser or greater extent.

Most people are capable of extreme violence in the wrong circumstances, from war to common family stress.

I would tend to disagree with your statement "most....are never violent" - they must account for some of the bullying in schools and a good deal of wife battering etc. amongst adults.

These people can be near impossible to superficially spot because they have the human skill (need even) to blend and "fit in".

As mentioned in my post the genetic disposition to turn psychopathicly homicidal tends to be switched on by childhood trauma/abuse which might have been a critical factor for the double UK murderer who had been an inmate at Jerseys HDLG.

Also; psychopaths DO feel emotion (to varying extents) but it tends to be a very self centred emotion & like you say, lacking in empathy .

Psychopathy is apparently clinically diagnosable in about 1% of the general population, rising to about 4% within higher management and potentially higher still in "hothouse"/transient societies like Jersey.


What is bizarre about the world, and Jersey in particular, is that even "normal" politicians, business people and bankers have adopted the mantle of the Psychopath (lying, spin, manipulation, risk taking, LOSS OF MORAL COMPASS) and the world was sold from under our feet in a massive confidence trick which is well deconstructed at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Job_(film)

The Inside Job film itself is a MUST SEE btw - It would have been fun if it had mentioned the small part played in spreading the rot by Jersey's LLP /Legislature for hire scandal - remember the one where a certain Mr.Syvret was illegally excluded from his rightful position in the States for 6 months.
H.

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Certainly, it does.

A number of politicians and civil servants to start with.

People in positions of strength and power who have behaved with - at best - utter callousness towards the weak and vulnerable, and - in some cases with deliberate malice and sadism.

For example, subjecting a mentally ill child to a regime of illegal solitary confinement.

For a period of two months.

Leaving the child laying bleeding from self-harm lacerations each night on a mattress in the cell.

Failing to address the burningly obvious health, emotion and education needs of the child.

That is a documented example of behaviour by those in positions of authority that displays psychopathy.

There are also elements of Groupthink at work - and Milgramatic obedience to authority - to be observed in the breakdown in the rule of law in Jersey's public sector.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

The commentor who says: "Gradwell leaked information!!has no one in authority got the balls to bring this git to justice?"
may have missed the "News" article in Pravda:
http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/comment/2012/01/10/policeman-who-blew-the-whistle/

Where the leaks are covered and the JEP labels Gradwell as a "WHISTLE BLOWER" lol.

A whistle blower ! - a member of that group who make sacrifice acting in the public interest rather than their own or their masters pmsl.

I would gladly pay 50p for a quality satirical comic (even if advert packed)
- but these articles are written with a straight face, and presumably bent information & morals.

But the laugh has been on us for years because not only do the gullible buy this tat but they actually swallow it !

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says:

"Like most mental issues I imagine that the psychopath trait is not clear cut but occurs as a "spectrum" which is present in many people to a lesser or greater extent.

etc."

Yes, I agree with what you say. I probably didn't express myself accurately. When I said most psychopaths are not violent, what I in fact was trying to convey is that most of them do not become the classic 'mad axe man' to be found in horror movies.

But of course a great deal of lower-grade violence such as domestic assaults, may well have a basis in psychopathy.

And yes, psychopaths do experience emotions; I was trying to say that their emotions will be largely solipsistic.

We can't help but speculate - can we - about the case of the individual you refer to when you wrote:

"As mentioned in my post the genetic disposition to turn psychopathically homicidal tends to be switched on by childhood trauma/abuse which might have been a critical factor for the double UK murderer who had been an inmate at Jerseys HDLG."

He was as a child, detained in Les Chenes, another of Jersey's infamous child institutions - where he and other children were routinely savagely battered by people like Tom McKeon and Mario Lundy.

As he wrote in a letter to his sister a couple of years ago, "I suppose I have Mario Lundy to thank for teaching me my later life-skills."

Stuart

voiceforchildren said...

Stuart.

"Where the leaks are covered and the JEP labels Gradwell as a "WHISTLE BLOWER" lol."

Jersey's only independent media (Bloggers) reported on THIS

Anonymous said...

The award winning documentary

the corporation

explains why psychopaths are so well suited to positions of power in large organisations

cyril

Anonymous said...

Ref. SS 13:47
Thanks for that, I remembered the general gist but fell down on the detail. The double murderer was "educated" at Les Chenes not HDLG.

It may be that the "psychopath switch" was switched while in the care of the States or it may be that the brutalisation at Les Chenes taught an otherwise fairly normal son, that this was acceptable behaviour and that it was OK to get what you want with whatever level of violence you fancy. These attitudes and behaviours can be learned.

Others will be more familiar with the case. I am off now because I have little more to contribute at the moment.

I will leave you with the though of how very lucky we are to have a man of the calibre of the many talented Mario Lundy as Jersey's Director of Education.

In addition to bringing out the hidden talents of the unfortunate Les Chenes boy he presumably can be thanked for making our non fee paying schools the envy of the western world (Not!)

http://www.thisisjersey.com/latest/2011/02/23/school-exam-worries-revealed/

"Two of the [4] schools, .... would be in the bottom ten in Britain."

One can argue abut the reasons and the precise placements -but parents in jersey either need to go without in order to pay school fees or they need to downgrade their children's future.

How did this man get into this highly paid position and how does he stay there ? - Is this brutalisation still "normal" in Jersey or what does Lundy know about whom ?

When he does go; how much will we be paying for his golden handshake ?

H

Anonymous said...

Tom McKeon and Mario Lundy had to deal with a lot of problem kids and you should stop playing judge and jury over people like this because it goes against their human rights.

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says:

"Tom McKeon and Mario Lundy had to deal with a lot of problem kids and you should stop playing judge and jury over people like this because it goes against their human rights."

No it doesn't.

The ECHR does not protect malfeasant individuals and malfeasant public authorities from scrutiny and criticism.

If it did - there would be no newspapers in Western Europe.

On the contrary, free speech is very strongly protected - especially in the context of public interest journalistic activity.

And what you describe as "dealing with 'problem' kids" was supposed to be a lawful activity, in which those children - often already with various needs - were helped and cared for by the authorities.

"Dealing" with "problem" children - by body-slamming them against walls - lifting them off the floor by their necks - breaking their arms - beating them over the head with trays - and punching them to the floor with right-hooks was not lawful. It was criminality.

Simply despicable criminality - of the worst kind.

And the fact that every one of Jersey's conflicted public authorities has colluded in concealing such crimes makes it all the more justifiable that independent journalists meet the public interest function of the Fourth Estate.

Someone has to be on the side of those children.

Stuart

Lorna Savage said...

Anonymous wrote "Tom McKeon and Mario Lundy had to deal with a lot of problem kids and you should stop playing judge and jury over people like this because it goes against their human rights."

I have had to deal with a lot of "problem kids" in a variety of settings in my working life and have never inflicted any physical violence towards any of them. What about the human rights of their victims? They may have compelling evidence of what was done to them but they have never had a chance to see either of these men brought to justice.

Lorna

Jill Gracia said...

Oh how right you are with your response Stuart to the 'human rights' of Lundy and McKeown.

What about the human rights of the children concerned. Problem children they may well have been, but you don't solve a problem by creating an even bigger one, although this is something that Jersey seems to be very good at.

The treatment that was meted out to some of the children in the care of these two men went against all their human rights. You don't break a horse in by beating it into submission. You guide it gently, take it slowly through the steps it needs to learn, and most importantly gain its trust and respect.

There is no difference with children. Talk with them, gain their confidence. Youngsters like it when adults treat them as fellow human beings. Locking them in solitary confinement for weeks on end, throwing them against walls and trying to break their spirit only serves to cause more bitterness, anger and violence from the victims and solves nothing.

Human rights? - Lundy and McKeown, you lost the right to those a long time ago.

Anonymous said...

I was talking to two ex members
of staff who used to work at les chenes, at the time of lundy and they had witnessed his behaviour however when the so called investigation took place,they and several other staff members were not even interviewed, and ashore me they had a lot to say,when one member in perticular approched the so called investigation team they were told that their edivence was not required as the investigation was now complete.

Anonymous said...

Mr Anonymous H, please would you like to say who's a double murderer? I believe he is convicted of one murder not two. Please get the facts right. Violence was normalised at Les Chenes. The kids had no choice, they survived for as long as they could. There was no escape, unless you were lucky enough to be stripped naked in a cell, on a mattress with no covers, then you had a break.

Anonymous said...

McKeown and Lundy have been investigated I assume, and either the Police or the A.G. found that there was no case to answer.Next stop is a civil action, but who has the will or the finances to pursue it. Unless one of the victims makes a stand then nothing can or will be done.

Someone just mentioned a broken arm incurred at Les Chenes.
That incident should be on record at Les Chenes,Police,Hospital.

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says:

"McKeown and Lundy have been investigated I assume, and either the Police or the A.G. found that there was no case to answer.Next stop is a civil action, but who has the will or the finances to pursue it. Unless one of the victims makes a stand then nothing can or will be done.

Someone just mentioned a broken arm incurred at Les Chenes.
That incident should be on record at Les Chenes,Police,Hospital."

The broken, actually, occurred during a visit to Fort Regent Swimming Pool.

A & E were told it was "sports injury".

And I'm afraid you just don't 'get' the situation.

The police wanted action taken against McKeon and Lundy - until the unlawful coup by Warcup, which the Attorney General was instrumental in driving.

William Bailhache always was determined to obstruct as many prosecutions as possible. And he was joined in that enterprise by the police, after the unlawful removal of Graham Power.

As to the civil claims by survivors - those too are being obstructed and sabotaged.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Stuart. Why is it that you seem to have so much information on all these atrocities and yet I have not once heard a single peep out of a victim or a victim's family memeber. How is it that you know so much detail "body-slam... right hook...broken arm... lifting children up by their necks". you must have either been told this by the victims themselves, or had been present at the time, or be making it up.

My question is; If so many different victims are happy to share - with such detail - their experiences with you directly why have none of them come forward (to speak for themselves). Through their own inter-net blog/statement for example.

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

I know these things, because many different victims have told me about their experiences. Different victims on different occasion.

Further - those accounts have been re-enforced by whistle-blowers.

It's also worth remembering that at a meeting for the senior civil servants at St. Paul's Centre, at which Graham Power was present, Bill Ogley - quite extraordinarily - made a point of saying of Mario Lundy that if anyone was going to arrest and charge him, they have to fight their way through him (Ogley) first.

There was never any way any of the senior civil servants were going to be charged - either with abuse - or with any of the many charges of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, and of misconduct in a public office that should have been brought.

The senior level of Jersey's civil service is a self-protecting mafia - completely out-of-control and beyond all effective accountability. Ogley, for example, committed many evidenced criminal offence of conspiracy and of misconduct. How has the public interest been protected against such criminality? It hasn't. Instead Ogley got a half-million pound golden handshake and his pension made up to full-term.

A number of the survivors do comment on blogs. But, for quite understandable reasons, most do not wish to be publicly known. Instead, many of them look to the Fourth Estate to speak for them.

Which in Jersey means us bloggers.

Stuart

Zoompad said...

One day people will look back on the very idea that children were put into cells with bars on the windows as places of safety with the same horror that they look on the shipping of shackled human beings for trade and profit. Sadly, that day hasn't arrived yet, as they are still doing it. Pindown never dissapeared, it just had a change of name.

Anonymous said...

If there are so many different victims of phisical abuse I can't understand why they would not want to come forward. Such 'shame driven' self-imposed anominity is common with vicitms of sexual abuse. But to be slammed against walls and recieve broken arms (and such injuries) as a youngster as a result of physical abuse and not be willing to speak out about it is unusual. Especially as you say multiple children were abused?

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Your assertion is not correct.

Most of the victims of violent child abuse that I know, do indeed, not wish what happened to them as individuals - or the fact they were in "care" as children - to become public knowledge.

But many of them did give statements to the police.

However, Graham Power was unlawfully suspended - and the office of Attorney General - Jersey's sole prosecuting authority - is institutionally conflicted and corrupted.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

Surely, if someone complained to the police that ex abused him or her at les chenes by holding them up by the neck etc it must be investigated,as was said in an earlier blog entry there are still members of the old staff who witnessed this and have never been interviewed.there must be a way to open the investigation again and nail these bast--ds once and for all they are laughing behind their victims backs, has anyone got any ideas?

Anonymous said...

"If there are so many ......... Especially as you say multiple children were abused?" at 12:11

Some HAVE come forward !
What's the matter, does it have to be in the JEP before it is true?

Healthy scepticism is necessary but Mr. Syvret "outs" perpetrators but to my knowledge he does not "out" victims
Healthy scepticism also applies to the media franchises and the JEP

Also there is often a real or perceived sexual element to the demeaning or physical abuse:
-nakedness and ridicule etc. even though penetration did not occur.

Long term physical abuse on it's own keeps has kept a few people people effectively as slaves for years even in 21st century mainland UK -if you grew up with it and you knew how Jersey works what would you do ?

Anonymous said...

Hi, Hanonymous without an "H" @02:00:00
Sorry - 2 errors in 1 post!, see first correction @16 February 2012 16:58:00 - but give us a break because there is so much information spanning so many years and it is difficult to cover it all, never mind remember it flawlessly in the time available.
I googled a bit and found only single murder (CONVICTION) - My recollection of him killing an old couple in the SW must have been a confusion with another news story.

My search for 'facts' took me to
http://planetjersey.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=775.0
"Rickie Michael Tregaskis from St Helier was 29 when he kicked a 54 year old man to death in Cornwall in 1997.
Only a few years earlier he'd been cleared by Jersey's Royal Court of the murder of Barbara Griffin at the Le Geyt Flats where he lived."
&
"Almost kicked a young woman to death in a car park"
.................

So I may actually have understated the consequences of "care" as (if all true) this is the tip of a moderate sized iceberg.

There were some good comments on that thread [I only looked at page 1]
I was pasting this as an extract form one of the best:
"Why does this matter? Because the criminal justice system is a very, very expensive failure. So rather than wait until people break the law – then lock-up thousands and thousands of them, maybe it would be far more humanely and financially effective to treat vulnerable or poverty-stricken children in a nurturing and humane way in first place?"
I would perhaps add 'pre-damaged' to the "vulnerable or poverty-stricken" above.

Then I looked at who had made the "nurturing and humane" comment and I saw that it was an Ex-Health Minister who according to the Bailache and JEP coverage has "lost the plot".
It is really annoying when the kids play "opposite day" but we must just roll our eyes because the grown ups are living on "opposite [is]land" and a surprising number of alleged adults have little trouble self-reconciling.

"lost the plot" -Do I recall that PB assertion being TV BROADCAST IN THE RUNUP TO THE ELECTION !!!! ?
All part of the wider coverage: This way to the milking - oops, I mean VOTING booths -"Mooooo" say 17k
But they don't know any better, poor dears - No time to all read this it's milking time again !

I hope the rest of my posts stand scrutiny - and I am glad to be corrected where they don't but I will leave you with another HDLG/Les Chenes link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/jersey/content/articles/2008/02/29/hautdelagarenne_aaron_victim_feature.shtml
Aaron : “Some of the staff there were nice people, some of them really nice, but the majority were just power-happy people,"

Most people in Education, Childcare, Nursing etc. are good people, there for the right reasons and putting bread on the table.
A few are NOT. The lions stay close to the zebras - it is a fact of nature, human or otherwise. Jersey's feudalism and protectionism ensured that it happened again and again -AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. We have not had the cleansing, never mind the ongoing vigilance required.

Why and how is Lundy (&co). so well protected and continue to be so well paid in spite of his poor performance ?

Must go now, it is milking time -even though I DIDN'T vote for Bailache because I'm not that stupid.

Respect,
Anonymous H.
['Ms' please but I don't want to split hairs over gender issues ]

P.S. further to my previous comments: To their considerable credit many survivors of the care system do manage to sufficiently re-connect with their humanity and make some level of success of their lives.
:-)

Anonymous said...

Stuart,

I have just seen that Robert Geen has been sentenced to 12 months imprisonment at Stonehaven Sherriff's court today.

This must be one of the greatest travesties of justice ever. The Scottish establishment appears to be on a par with that in Jersey. It protects the criminals whilst opersting a vendetta against those who attempt to get justice for the victim(s).

Do you and followers of your Blog have any ideas to launch an effect campaign to fight for Robert as well as the victims?

Frances.

Anonymous said...

And the GP who saw to the broken arm. Was he/she conflicted between reporting a childs suspicious injuries and maintaining the islands happy image. Or corrupted by the powers that be? Maybe the child would be scared into silence.

Zoompad said...

A lot of people did come forward but they have had their statements scotched out, and even ridiculed, such as the obnoxious comments that were made about wet towel flicking.

Anonymous said...

http://parker-joseph.com/pjcjournal/2012/02/17/robert-green-hollie-demands-justice-campaigner-jailed-by-scottish-court/

Robert Green sentenced to 1 Year in jail

Anonymous said...

Was the same policeman that leaked stuff to David Rose the same one that declined the job of chief of police due to things written about him on blogs? I know it was Gradwell who leaked but not sure if he was the one who used the blogs excuse. If it was then what a strange coincidence he would also have faced disciplinary actions (apparantly and according to ILM) if he stayed on.

I get confused though as to which one was which but if it is one and the same then what a coincidence!

rico sorda said...

http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/02/operation-end-game-should-i-stop.html

I have added an interview that Constable Crowcroft gave on the 12th November 2009 regarding the suspension of Graham Power. It is a must watch.

http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/02/operation-end-game-should-i-stop.html

rs

Ian Evans said...

YEAR IN PRISON FOR STOPPING PAEDOPHILLIA!!!

Anonymous said...

Gradwell leaked lies to Rose, and Warcup blamed the blogs (in part) as a reason for fleeing Jersey.

Anonymous said...

WHERE ARE THEY NOW ? #1
Comments leading up to: "Gradwell leaked lies to Rose, and Warcup blamed the blogs (in part) as a reason for fleeing Jersey."
made me wonder where the various pantomime players went:

MICK GRADEWLL
Other comments pages have suggested that Gradwell became a wedding planner.
It would have been amusing if the media and "paperwork cop" showman had made himself unemployable and had moved into wedding planning but the photo at:
http://www.gradwellphotography.co.uk/index.html
might be a relative but looks (to me) like a different guy.

This pic actually suits him better:
https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR6lhPsR96yB5B_NMP17Qr1mdvooyZpA7C70H9sR69SNh9fJquqSQ
but is probably not him either.

http://www.blackburncitizen.co.uk/news/4832557.East_Lancashire_retiring_police_chief__people_should_be_told_if_paedophiles_live_nearby/
"Mr Gradwell, who is originally from Blackpool and followed his father into the force in 1979, lives in Hoghton and is hoping to use his experiences of policing at the sharp end to have a positive impact.
He is currently involved in media crisis training, presentations and public speaking, as well as being employed as a consultant to forensic science company SRi Forensics."

"media crisis training" -really, Still working closely with Matt Tapp I wonder ?
-Whole thing looks like Media Spin; RE BRANDING HIMSELF AS THE PROTECTOR OF CHILDREN.
May not have been entirely successful though : "Regrettably, we've had to remove the comments facility on this story ..."
Too many dissatisfied customers Eh. Mick?

Anonymous said...

DAVID ROSE - Where are they now ? #2

David is still at the Daily Mail - still talking tripe, perverting facts and doing the dirty work of shadowy, well financed entities.

One of many Rose's many recent Climate change Denier articles.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063737/BBCs-Mr-Climate-Change-15-000-grants-university-rocked-global-warning-scandal.html

Laughable to anyone who knows anything about the Climategate "scandal" where the only scandal was that US oil industry / hackers illegally broke into University of East Anglea computers and stole masses of email files which they then sifted through and found about 4 careless phrases in internal emails.

From child abuse denier to Climate change Denier - now who will have studied this subject with the integrity and intellectual rigour it deserves ? David Rose or Stephen Hawking et al ?

David Rose is a Joke, a sick Joke -perhaps he could get a job with the JEP when the Mail is done with him.

A study a few years ago by the UN estimated that 300 million additional people are going to be at risk of starvation (to death?) as a result of unchecked climate change.
300 MILLION !!!!
Even 1 million would be a lot. Does your 'profession' put food on your kid's table Dave?

It may be that David Rose's little escapades into the Jersey/Gradwell "tooth fairyland" may be one of his less serious disservices to humanity.

H.

Anonymous said...

Stuart.
When considering all the people you have publically 'outted' - for various offences - do you feel any sympathy or contrition towards those whom you have falsey accused (accidentally or otherwise)?

Anonymous said...

MICK GRADEWLL - Where are they now ? AN UPDATE

Guess who made it to the board of previous acquaintances SRi Forensics?

http://www.sri-forensics.com/about_sri_forensics_epe_video_facial_forensics/board/police__and__client_liason/

"Michael Gradwell (Co-opted) - Ex-Detective Superintendant Michael Gradwell is one of the UK's most experienced Senior Detectives. As SIO at Lancashire Police, he presided over the investigation of some of the most high profile incidences in the UK.
Mick has extensive experience of large complex enquiries, including the 2004 Morecambe Bay incident which initially drew him and SRi Forensics together.
Mick provides invaluable insight into the workings of the minds within the Criminal Justice System [I bet]. This information assists the company to develop and implement strategy and marketing strands that are tailor made for authorities in the Criminal Justice System. Mick has a regular Newspaper column with the Lancashire Evneng Post [Lancashire Evening Post ?] where he discusses current Police and public related matters "


So Gradwell's main career achievement is following the paper trail after the tragic drowning of 21 illegal Chinese semi-slaves - such a shame that the police could not have identified the problem and prevented the tragedy - too busy with paperwork and press briefings I perhaps.


What of SRi Forensics?

Can any client wanting credibility go near this company ?

Perhaps some clients want their evidence misrepresenting and passed on illegally to third parties?

Or perhaps SRi Forensics have circulated reassurance that Michael Gradwell is purely a PR mouthpiece and he will not be let near any actual evidence or sensitive information thereon.

In life, politics and business we must choose our bedfellows carefully.

And what happened to Gradwell's "media crisis training" peddled at :

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/rossendale/haslingden/4832557.East_Lancashire_retiring_police_chief__people_should_be_told_if_paedophiles_live_nearby/

[You talk the talk but we have seen you follow the money and walk the walk ;-) ]

Didn't take off ?
Prospective clients be warned that shoddy workmanship and papering over the cracks just leads to even more embarrassing collapse because the structural problems have been hidden - there are a lot of cowboys out there.

- a few clients who just want to cover up for a bit so that they can get the hell out may still use you.
-have you considered giving ILM a call ?

Anonymous said...

DAVID WARCUP & IAN LE MARQUAND - Where are they now ? #3

You can link these two as they both have a bit of the spineless bully about them.

I'm not sure I give enough of a proverbial to care where Warcup is now so perhaps someone else can tell us if they can be bothered.

I DO take great solace in telling you where he ISN'T.

http://www.thisisjersey.com/latest/2010/03/31/ill-resign-over-police-chief-appointment/

Well; David Warcup ISN'T Jersey's police chief and this alleged brave protector of the public scuttled off with his tail between his legs and perhaps his little truncion tucked where the sun don't shine.

Credibility and integrity - the mark of a man - ILM did NOT resign and is now truly up the creek praying for god or Bailache (interchangeable?) to throw him a paddle or a line.
The man is without shame.

Oh to be a roach on the wall when they meet their beloved god and start vacillating their excuses

We all know where ILM is now and where he will try to stay in the face of any evidence or past assertions.

I can tell you where Ian is GOING:

You are going 'DOWN' my son - both in this life and the next -enjoy eternity burning in a hell of your own making !

Did praying give you sucker while you did vile things to good people?
- it is a common tool of rationalisation amongst religious delusionists

- Perhaps the devil hijacked the email-prayer server under the pulpit.
- In your heart you know that you were not the unwilling victim of an evil 'phishing scam'


I am always fascinated by the religious marketing scam of repentance. Powerfully seductive but if there is a "creator" she can read the short panted lies and apply an acid test like WOULD YOU DO THE SAME AGAIN ?

It is not my job to judge but ironically it used to be yours, and it made you over 30 pieces of silver. And a few good friends who will desert you before the drop of a gavel.

But be not forlorn in the wilderness, you may stand shoulder to shoulder with them at your final judgement

You are going down my son - now you may kiss the devil in the traditional way.
Or perhaps PROPER repentance will work.

Zoompad said...

"David is still at the Daily Mail"

Well, that's a very good reason for not buying the Daily Mail.

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says:

"When considering all the people you have publically 'outted' - for various offences - do you feel any sympathy or contrition towards those whom you have falsey accused (accidentally or otherwise)?"

I have made no false accusations.

On the contrary - I am unusually cautious by the standard of some, in exposing those who have acted unlawfully and illegally.

I've been writing this blog since January 2008.

Do you know how many lawyers' letters I have received in that whole time - threatening me with a defamation action on behalf of a client?

Nil.

Not one single one.

That is because to take, say, charachters such as McKeon or Lundy, they know perfectly well if they tried to pursue the legal remedy mechanism available to them - a defamation action - I would have as witnesses a number of their victims who would stand up in open court, point to them, and say "that man battered me when I was a child in care."

Game over.

Even Jersey's bent and politicised judiciary would find it a touch embarrassing - finding against me in that case.

Although that probably wouldn't stop them.

Which makes it all the more remarkable these various wretched swine don't bring cases against me.

Stuart

voiceforchildren said...

Stuart.

Guernsey has a newspaper that campaigns for victims/survivors of Child Abuse and not the PERPETRATORS OF IT

Anonymous said...

Stuart, I thought you said some people were taking you to court or should I say via the Data Protection Law, is that not the case now?

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says:

"Stuart, I thought you said some people were taking you to court or should I say via the Data Protection Law, is that not the case now?"

The various threats, harassment and malicious prosecutions I have been subjected under the data protection law are simply the corrupt abuse of a law for the purposes of criminalising those who say unpleasant things about the Jersey government or its supporters and allies.

What I said above was:

"Do you know how many lawyers' letters I have received in that whole time - threatening me with a defamation action on behalf of a client? Nil."

That is the case.

Not one of the individuals named by me has so much as even threatened a defamation action - which is the civil remedy available to those who are confident untrue and unjustifiable things have been said about them.

If you or I, or anyone else in a normal, free, democracy society objected to an identifiable person writing of us that we had committed serious crimes, we would have to sue that person in a defamation action.

However, if you are allied to the Jersey oligarhcy - you can rely upon the Attorney General, the Data Protection Commissioner, the police and the judiciary to try and silence your critic on your behalf.

Ordinary people, meanwhile, remain wholly unprotected by the data protection law. Witness, for example, the straightforward theft of personal data - of no public interest merit - and the publication of that data by the gangster and spiv and ally of Philip Bailhache, Deputy Sean Power.

Formal complaints to the police and Attorney General Tim Le Cocq. Result? No action.

The overt corruption and politicisation of law enforcement.

Stuart

Lorna Savage said...

Anonymous wrote "If there are so many different victims of phisical abuse I can't understand why they would not want to come forward."

If children and young people are subjected to violence from a very young age and see it happening to other children and young people they become desensitised and almost see it as "normal". When others come forward, many victims of physical and sexual violence feel guilty in some way or ashamed of what has happened and they do not come forward. If you are told often enough that you are "bad" and deserve such treatment you will need a lot of support and encouragement to tell your story. That is where Stuart and the JCLA come in because they will listen to people without judgement and give them the strength to tell their story. Sadly much of the evidence given by myself and others is lost somewhere in the ether or "ripped up" by War-Cop.I feel angry as I know that my evidence would corroborate the evidence that so many brave survivors gave.

Lorna

Anonymous said...

Another point that supports your argument is that no individual has actually provided documented evidence rebutting your statements.

If you defamed someone by making demonstratively untrue accusations, a host of feudalist puppets would spin and publicize any and all evidence against you via an all-too-eager State Media.

Instead, they rely on trolling to make the uber-ironic complaints that no one is interested or it is coconuts or that your hard evidence based commentary is all just conspiracy theorist nonsense. Despite their obsessive daily trolling on multiple forums, critics of your views cite no meaningful evidence - EVER - because they can't find any.

Those who claim you have made false accusations against them can't even respond to you with any rational defense because they have none, and because, by rights, YOU could then sue them for DEFAMATION.

Of course, you would always lose any Jersey court case because the normal laws will be systematically restructured against your evidence, as has been demonstrated in multiple court dates. But any court case - by you or against you - still carries the risk of exposing those publicly recorded facts on your side.

You are also simply too smart and too compelling a speaker for them to risk the entire system by releasing and exchanging relevant evidence of defamation by or against you in a public Jersey court, at least with an any fact-based legal argument.

Instead, they use personal denigration and are forced to focus their entire legal strategy on convoluted secondary charges involving your performance of public service work. This makes strategic sense to them because it dilutes the basis for their self incriminating original police and judicial oppression.

This carries a big risk for them, however, and they must realize how much fuel they have provided you with for Strasbourg already, since your recent court cases will could ultimately delegitimize Jersey's governance, forcing their cover up to extend to ever more complicated levels.

No. A defamation suit against you isn't likely. Their excuse that you lack the financial means to pay out damages is not a very believable enough reason for your enemies not to sue you. They would pay whatever they had to, no doubt with the help of powerful wealthy benefactors, if they could clear their names and discredit you.

But like their trolls, they just can't seem to find any factual evidence to use against you.

rico sorda said...

http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/02/operation-end-game-graham-power-replies.html

RS

Anonymous said...

"Do you know how many lawyers' letters I have received in that whole time - threatening me with a defamation action on behalf of a client? Nil."

Stuart. You - correct me if I am wrong - are not a wealthy man. What good would it do someone to sue you? Who has the time, or money, or the will to have their name futhur dragged through the mud.

To claim the fact you have not recieved a lawsuit from anyone proves all your allegations to be true is extremely flawd logic.

Anonymous said...

"Another point that supports your (Stuart's) argument is that no individual has actually provided documented evidence rebutting your statements...critics of your views cite no meaningful evidence - EVER - because they can't find any"

This again is flawd logic.

'You can't prove ____ doesn't exist. Therefore it must exist'

EG. You will not find a thred of documented evidence to rebut mr.X's statement that Stuart Syvret once stompt on a child's lego house. - No such incident occured but by the above logic, it is the lack of evidence to contend his innocence which proves his guilt.

Similar logic was applied to Witch burnings.

(I don't work for the States btw and I don't appreciate being refered to as a troll just because my opinion is counter to your own)

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says:

"EG. You will not find a thred of documented evidence to rebut mr.X's statement that Stuart Syvret once stompt on a child's lego house. - No such incident occured but by the above logic, it is the lack of evidence to contend his innocence which proves his guilt."

I agree with that statement. The argument that those accused should produce evidence to prove their innocence was advanced by a reader, not by me.

The reader also says:

"Stuart. You - correct me if I am wrong - are not a wealthy man. What good would it do someone to sue you? Who has the time, or money, or the will to have their name further dragged through the mud."

"What good would it do?"

The good it would do would be to place their accusers on the spot - because in a defamation action, the burden of proof is upon the defendant, not the claimant. To develop the point made above, it is not incumbent upon those accused to prove the accusation against them to be false - the onus is upon the person who made the assertions to prove that they are correct.

Those I have named on this blog are either very wealthy, or they could call upon the might of the States, and the civil service association to fund their legal action. And even if they couldn't, they could represent themselves, and table the action. It might require about three or four sides of A4, and less than £200 in court stamps.

It's true I'm not wealthy, indeed, I'm penniless. But that's hardly the point, is it? You would not table such an action because of the prospect of making a lot of money - rather, you would do it to say to the world, "I am innocent of these accusations - and I say this person who has written these things about me is wrong, let him prove otherwise."

I would then be faced with the burden of proving to a jury - on the balance of probabilities - that what I said was true.

But what if I could?

There's the rub.

The reader who comments is only right when they refer to a person's name "getting dragged through the mud" - if there is mud for it to be dragged through.

Witnesses, Documents? Victims?

And the days when people could get away with perjuring themselves in defamation actions is long over - as Tommy Sheridan, Jeffrey Archer and Jonathan Aitken could attest.

Well - you feeling lucky, punk?

Come and have a go if you think your reputation is hard enough.

Stuart.