And Establish a Compensation Scheme.
But – does that mean real justice for the survivors?
“I have serious concerns, to be honest, about the whole child protection, child welfare standards of performance of Jersey, not just within my own department, Social Services and the Children’s Service, but across the board. I am aware of a number of issues, this being one of them, a number of cases, a number of incidents that lead me more and more strongly to the conclusion that we are failing badly in this area. I am probably going to be seeking to initiate a major independent review into the whole sphere of child welfare, child protection in Jersey. So if you are asking me honestly, do I believe the performance of certain senior individuals within this field and of the departments generally is acceptable, no, it is not.”
Stuart Syvret, Minister for Health &
Social Services
In answer to a question in the Jersey parliament – 16th July 2007.
In answer to a question in the Jersey parliament – 16th July 2007.
So – here we are.
Over four and half years of political and
legal apocalypse later. And finally the States of Jersey admit to that which
was plain and evidenced – and discovered for them – and told to them – in an
honest answer, given in the island’s parliament. Over four-and-a-half years ago.
Being an honest person in politics is an immensely difficult – and thankless – path to take.
But one can take some crumb of comfort in being correct.
I was right, too – when I described the States assembly as largely a collection of gangsters and halfwits – in a TV interview – after they had shouted-down and halted my Christmas speech – in which I was attempting to express some recognition and empathy towards all those decades of abuse survivors.
The first time ever, that a Jersey politician had spoken of them.
And I’m right, too – when I say you have the government you deserve.
This is the confidential file-note, written by then Police Chief Graham Power, on the 25th July 2007 – after an attempt was made to involve him in the illegal conspiracy to engineer my dismissal. The senior civil servants – with the support of people like Frank Walker and the Attorney General – hoped that by oppressing me, they could keep the child protection failures hidden.
“Note book entry made on 25th July, 2007
16.00. I am at HQ having just returned from a meeting of the CMB (Corporate Management Board.) During the meeting BO (Bill Ogley) said that he would wish some of us to remain afterwards to discuss the comments of the Health Minister Senator Syvret in relation to child protection issues. He told the full meeting that it was possible that the COM (Council of Ministers) would pass a notice of “no confidence” tomorrow and ask this to be confirmed by a full meeting of the States specially convened for that purpose. This would result in Senator Syvret having to leave Office. It was also mentioned that the island’s Child Protection Committee (C.P.C) was meeting that afternoon and I was asked if we would be represented. I got the impression that those present saw that meeting as particularly significant, and felt that “something was going on” which others knew about but I did not.
I said that I did not know about the meeting (I would not usually know) and that I assumed Insp. Fossey (Detective Inspector Alison Fossey) who BO knows and we both referred to as “Alison” would be representing the force.
After the meeting, myself, TMcK (Tom McKeon, Chief Officer Education, Sport & Culture) and MP (Mike Pollard, Chief Officer, Health & Social Services) and Ian C (Ian Crich, Director, States HR Department) remained behind. I was handed a copy of a report to Ministers and associated papers, which I have stamped and initialled. The discussion was led by BO who disclosed that the C.P.C would, this afternoon be discussing a vote of no confidence in the Minister. MP and TMcK did not seem surprised at this. MP seemed to be fully signed up to this course of action.
Attempts were made by BO to draw me into this. I was told that my people were “part of” the island’s arrangements and I should show collective support by opposing the criticism made by the Minister. I was taken aback by this but responded in two ways. Firstly I said leaving aside issues of style and manner the questions raised by the Minister were valid. Particularly in respect of the time it had taken for the abuse of a [child] in [a] case to come to the notice of the police and the apparent failure of child protection to give it priority. I said that the SCR (Serious Case Review) was a poor effort which missed the hard questions and I was not surprised that the Minister was not impressed. I conceded that all of the questions might have answers, I just thought they were good questions and ones which a Minister could validly ask. There was also some discussion of the Victoria College and Holland cases which was not central to the issue.
BO and the others were persistent and I was left with the clear impression that they were attempting to draw me, in my capacity as Chief of Police, into a civil service led attempt to remove a Minister from Office.
Having concluded this I then moved on to my second point which was that even if I agreed with everything they said I would still have nothing to do with it. They were engaging in what I saw as political activity and it was entirely inappropriate that I should be involved one way or the other. The fact that “I will have nothing to do with this” was made clearly. At this point BO said “in that case, goodbye”, or something very similar. I picked up my papers. There was no bad feeling or bad words, we just disagreed. As soon as I was outside I rang SDV (Shaun Du Val, Head of Operations) and alerted him to the possible problems at the C.P.C. AF rang me not long afterwards and told me that she had abstained. I told her to put this beyond all doubt by a follow-up e-mail to the Chair. I made this notebook entry then walked over to Ops for it to be timed in the relevant machine.
Graham Power, 16.39, Wed. 25th July 2007.”
When we speak of the culpability – the guilt – of the States of Jersey, in respect of all those decades of child abuse – of ruined lives – we are looking at such a startling level of turpitude – of breathtaking dishonesty and reprehensible corruption – that it even transcends some of the more infamous examples of child abuse concealment to have emerged globally in the last decade or two.
Which other jurisdiction – on the face of the planet – sacks a Social Services Minister – for trying to protect vulnerable children?
Which other jurisdiction - on the face of the planet - illegally suspends the Police Chief - in order to sabotage a child abuse investigation?
Not even Zimbabwe or North-Korea or Putin’s Russia or Iran have acted in such ways.
Yet, here in Jersey – even though the illegal conspiracy is exposed – what action is taken against the perpetrators?
Bill Ogley – who should be in prison doing ten years straight – has been paid-off – with over half-a-million pounds of tax-payers money – plus solid-gold pension.
And the abuse survivors?
Those people who were criminally failed and betrayed by the States of Jersey?
The best most could expect from the recently announced compensation scheme, might be enough money to buy a cheap car.
Tony has written a thoughtful article concerning the subject:
http://tonymusings.blogspot.com/2012/04/stolen-childhoods.html
Innocent victims of your government – people who were failed and betrayed by expensive civil servants – children who were treated savagely - are not going to receive anything like sufficient compensation.
Meanwhile – the gangsters and halfwits you choose to elect – will happily spend over half-a-million pounds of your money – paying-off one of those civil servants.
A civil servant who – evidencedly – engaged in a criminal conspiracy to sabotage democracy – and to obstruct the first ever States member to have recognised and spoken out against the child protection failures.
A civil servant who then engaged in another criminal conspiracy to unlawfully sabotage objective policing and to engineer the illegal suspension of the Police Chief.
A civil servant who then destroyed the contemporaneous notes before they could be verified.
A civil servant who perverted justice – and who should be prosecuted.
Over £500,000 – plus gold-plated pension – to Bill Ogley.
Whilst the innocent victims might get a pittance.
The government you deserve.
Stuart
159 comments:
Stuart.
From the sworn affidavit of the Former Chief of Police Graham Power QPM.
"19. The third example I have chosen relates to a Strategic Planning Workshop held at the St Pauls Centre on Friday 24th October 2008. The Workshop was attended by a number of senior public servants including myself and the Chief Executive. At the commencement of the workshop the Chief Executive asked for silence and said that he had an announcement to make. He named a senior civil servant who was present. The person named is a suspect in the abuse investigation but has not been suspended. The Chief Executive said that the suspect had his total support and that “if anyone wants to get…….(the suspect)…….they would have to get me first”. This announcement was applauded by some but not all of the persons present. I took it as a further indication of the “in crowd” closing ranks against the “threat” of the abuse enquiry. The Chief Executive later played a significant role in my suspension."
So according to Mr. Power's affidavit Mr. Ogley's priorities lay with protecting an alleged abuser rather than leaving no stone un-turned in the quest for justice. The said Civil Servant is still in place now.
FRIGHTENING
Yes.
The civil servant referred to in the above-comment is Mario Lundy - Chief Executive of the Education Department.
Stuart
Admission of guilt with apology all well & good BUT what about the people the apology was made on behalf of THE GUILTY ONES what has happened to them still in gold plated jobs & pensions & no repercussions although their actions have cost all this time,cost & suffering?
No doubt Lundy will walk away with a gold plated pension and never see the inside of a courtroom.
Much has been made of the 60 thousand pounds awarded to the victims of child abuse in the care of the States of Jersey. In comparison to the amounts given out to civil servants who were directly involved in the delibearte concealment of thoe same abuses by those within public administration this sum seems paltry. But what is the real total figure of payments being suggested by the States of Jersey? We know that in total up to 100 victims may well be elligable for compensation under the scheme which offers a sliding scale of compensation depending upon the level of abuse suffered.
But what if only the majority of victims receive far less then the full amount? What if many only revieve sums no greater than 10 thousand pounds?
What is the final figure the that the States of Jersey are hoping to agree on should all the victims of abuse fall into line?
Might it be less the total's paid to messers Pollard and Ogley?
It is not unreasonable to expect that it might be.
As an aside I was knocked off my bike by a drink driver in the UK and he was later prosecuted and ordered to pay me 25 thousand pounds compensation and to meet all my medical bills relating to the ongoing treatments I required for a period of three years. I was not that badly hurt and certainly suffered no long term damage as a result.
Ultimately it is up the victims to decide on which is the right course of action for them to follow and we must repect that but I would urge caution. My feeling is that once again the States are trying to minimise their culpability by offering far lower terms than might be reasonable if a court case was brought by the victims.
The survivors need to think about some important questions:
No matter what your lawyers may say - your position in respect of bringing legal claims against the States of Jersey is far, far stronger than the "official" position would admit.
For example, it is claimed that as many of the abuses occurred so long ago, your claims would be "timed-out" - that is, be over the cut-off date for claims, if you tried to fight the cases in court.
It's not so simple as that for the States.
The survivors have been blocked and prevented from bringing claims earlier by what is termed an “empĂȘchement de fait” - or impediment.
In this case, the "impediment" has been the evidenced, sustained - including recent - criminal concealment of the truth, by the States of Jersey.
A claimant who faces an impediment may be able to bring a claim - even if the impediment they faced was not a deliberate obstruction, but rather an 'act of fate'.
However - in this case - the impediment that has prevented survivors from bringing claims - sometimes for decades - has been “la fraude et mauvaise foi” - or acts of 'bad-faith' by the States of Jersey and its employees.
If your knowledge of the fact you have a viable claim has been wilfully obstructed - then what are known as 'prescription-periods' do not start running.
Moreover, when the malfeasant action has been actively criminal in nature - which it has - prescription-periods don't run.
In the case of the child abuse in Jersey - the States of Jersey have - overtly and evidencedly - engaged in a sustained pattern of conduct.
A sustained pattern of illegal conduct of child-abuse and child-protection failures.
Further - that pattern of evidenced and illegal conduct has included a multitude of examples of criminal concealment - of deliberately and calculatedly fraudulent conduct - designed to hide the failings, malfeasance and crimes of the States of Jersey - of its employees and its departments.
Not only is there a vast range of evidence - there are also extremely well-placed witnesses who could be called by the survivors in any legal action, and asked if the States of Jersey had been criminally failing to protect children and criminally concealing child abuse?
Those witnesses include no less figures than the former Chief of Police, former Health & Social Services Minister and former Deputy Chief of Police.
I can't speak for Mr. Power and Mr. Harper - but judging from what they have already stated in affidavits, we can be very confident their answers would support the case of the survivors.
Certainly, my answers would.
The States of Jersey?
A criminal enterprise - that has permitted decades of child abuse - and then acted criminally to fraudulently conceal that abuse.
Just consider one set of cases - the Blanche Pierre Group Home - and the conduct of the child abusers Jane and Alan Maguire.
A clear-cut case of disgusting failure and naked criminality by all relevant public authorities in Jersey.
The very idea that people like Pollard and Ogley would get more money than those victims is wicked and sickening.
But quite aside from the strength of the survivors' claims - there is also the "tactical" and "political" factor to take into consideration.
Whatever the legal horse-trading - the States of Jersey would - if their bluff is called - just flip open the cheque-book and ask "how much?" - sooner than face a class-action in open court - during which witnesses like Mr Power, me and Mr Harper were called - and the whole despicable and reprehensible criminality and breakdown in governance by the States of Jersey was exposed.
Think about it:
Philip Bailhache - Michael Birt - William Bailhache - called as witnesses, to answer for their well-evidenced actions and conduct in the unlawful concealment of child protection failures?
The Jersey oligarchy runs, screaming, from the prospect.
Get yourselves better lawyers.
Stuart
The Pitmans have lost their dopey libel action.
I haven't followed the Pitman case at all - so have no knowledge of the grounds or arguments.
But let's face it - even if the Pitmans had been 100% right - they still would have lost.
Jersey does not have an impartial, objective judiciary.
Stuart
Come off it Stuart it was a UK judge. How much more can you carry on with this stupid hypothesis?
Stuart, do you know if there is any law in Jersey which allows civil servants to be held personally financially liable for their actions in instances of negligence or malfeasance.
I seem to recall a case a few years ago where an essentially corrupt planning officer in Cornwall allowed a completely inappropriate development. Local residents complained to central government, and the planning officer was ultimately obliged to pay for the demolition and removal of the offending building out of his own pocket.
One of the reasons that I ask is becuase any compensation paid to victims of abuse will, presumably, be paid out of funds derived from tax payers who were in no way culpable for the abuse.
In a perfect world, compensation ought to be paid first by those who committed the abuse in the first place, and then by the complacent (and in some cases complicit) civil servants who allowed the abuse to occur through their failure to protect victims.
"Get yourselves better lawyers."
That is the problem. Lawyers who will take on these thugs are not veryu easy to find. Mine is dead.
Stuart, I’m in the process of instructing a leading UK Law Firm to represent me concerning the abuse I suffered whilst in the care of the States of Jersey! I must confess that I am not at all happy with the awards the States of Jersey are offering, considering the lengths that they and their employees (both past and present) have gone to denigrate and deny the now acknowledged victims (no longer alleged) of Abuse Justice.
Rather then just accepting the award offered by the States of Jersey (which to be honest is an insult) I am considering taking independent legal action against the States and certain individuals who have been at the forefront of the corruption in perverting the course of Justice with regard to the HdlG Child abuse investigation. Clearly, this action will touch the lives of many who at one time thought that they were untouchable.
As such, what I would like to ask is this, do you know or could you find out, whether the likes of the former Chief of Police and his deputy be prepared to support this action by talking to my legal representative if necessary?
Similarly, I would like your support, therefore would it be ok to contact you via email for further talks?
Thank you for what you and other’s have and are doing to try and bring a modicum of democracy and justice to this sad lawless place!
A reader says:
"Stuart, do you know if there is any law in Jersey which allows civil servants to be held personally financially liable for their actions in instances of negligence or malfeasance.
I seem to recall a case a few years ago where an essentially corrupt planning officer in Cornwall allowed a completely inappropriate development. Local residents complained to central government, and the planning officer was ultimately obliged to pay for the demolition and removal of the offending building out of his own pocket."
A degree of caution needs to be had, as Jersey law is not necessarily the same as that of the UK in respect of the personal liability of corrupt local officials. I'm not, for example, aware of any specific Jersey statute law on the subject.
However, it is my understanding that the commonly understood provision, which protects public servants from personal liability if their actions cause someone loss or damages - ceases to operate if there is actually malfeasant, corrupt action on behalf of the public official.
So any 'immunity' that attaches to the actual job or Office, ceases to apply if the person in question has acted maliciously, unlawfully etc.
So - technically - yes - there are various civil servants in Jersey - past and present - who could be sued for personal damages, because they have acted knowingly corruptly - for example, to improperly conceal their own incompetence or those of others.
The situation becomes even more clear if the civil servant in question actually directly abused, attacked or harmed you in some way. Then no public protection of Office can shield them.
Of course - the above possibilities do presuppose a fair and functioning judiciary.
Stuart
Stuart
Your comment on the insufficiency of the awards to abuse survivors brings up profoundly important points.
I am not one of the survivors so I can't say what I would do in their shoes, although understanding why those damaged by serious abuse can find even a paltry sum tempting to accept. It might be too hard to hold out hope for a more just settlement from a system as tainted as Jersey's, but I think you are right to imply there may be other paths for survivors to consider.
Right now, Jersey's establishment has everything to lose if some survivors take their cases to court. It helps to consider that in several past abuse prosecution cases, criminal convictions have been obtained when the establishment had initially claimed there was not a strong enough case to try. The jury thought otherwise after listening to accounts of childhoods destroyed by abuse.
The settlement amounts on offer and the public claim by at least one law firm that all their clients would be accepting it, sounds like another scandal although Jersey's official admission of institutional responsibility for the abuse offers some measure of belated justice.
I would hope that at least a few abuse survivors -those with the ability to forego an immediate small settlement, would be able to take their cases to court so their full stories can be heard. It is not only the abuse itself which would be disclosed, but the details of trying to report abuse to complicit or apathetic politicians, media, civil servants, clergy and police. That is the story that should make the wider world weep, and serve as a cautionary tale to others who would cover up such things.
Isn't it possible that an establishment willing to spend millions create police department scandals where none existed could suddenly become more generous if there was a real risk of the kind of international public exposure the abuse scandal generated a few years ago?
A reader says:
"As such, what I would like to ask is this, do you know or could you find out, whether the likes of the former Chief of Police and his deputy be prepared to support this action by talking to my legal representative if necessary?
Similarly, I would like your support, therefore would it be ok to contact you via email for further talks?"
I cannot speak for Mr Power or Mr Harper - but I imagine that both men would be willing witnesses in respect their experiences and knowledge and understanding of the conduct of Jersey's public authorities towards the subject of child abuse - failures to deal with that abuse - and general cover-ups.
Certainly, looking at the public comments of both men, in affidavits and statements published on this blog and others - it is perfectly reasonable to see what their general view is.
I wouldn't, though, blame them if they had concerns abut the absence of an unbiased and non-corrupted judicial system in Jersey.
For my part - I am ready and willing to appear as a witness in court for survivors - and be cross-examined under oath.
Whilst I might not know about the details of specific and particular cases of abuse (though I am aware of some, from whistle-blowers, survivors, other witnesses and documentary evidence)- I do know - tragically - just what the plain and evidenced conduct of the States of Jersey has been.
As I can testify - it has been - without question - and on the evidence - a consistent and deliberate and calculated pattern of unlawful conduct; a pattern of conduct of actual willful abuses - and the deliberate, proactive concealing of that abuse - and the deliberate, calculated and sustained concealment of that abuse - and the similar concealment of years and decades of child protection failure.
That is a plain and evidenced fact.
Just the way things are.
The States of Jersey do not have the proverbial leg to stand on.
Indeed - if survivors wished to tell the States where to stick their insolent offer, and take the matter to court - the survivors could, in fact, cite the engineering of my dismissal - and the illegal suspension of Graham Power - as direct, evidential examples - as proof - of the deliberate plans and conspiracies of the States of Jersey to conceal child abuse and child protection failures.
Survivors will be able - rightly - to say "we never had a chance as children".
"How can we have had proper and lawful protections - when the two actual public authorities in Jersey with the most immediate responsibilities for protecting children - the Social Services Minister - and the Police Chief - can both be oppressed and sabotaged - for trying to protect children?"
If a system of public administration can act that way - as it did - in the 21st century - then there can be no doubt just how despicable and culpable its conduct was in previous decades.
Stuart
"For my part - I am ready and willing to appear as a witness in court for survivors - and be cross-examined under oath."
You are a star.
The Jersey HDLG abuse survivors deserve far more than the measly sop they are being begrudgingly tossed. That £60,000 max offer is an insult, especially if it has the same gagging threats in the documentation small print as was offered to the Irish abuse survivors.
If someone who suffered at the hands of lundy was to put a claim in would this lead to a further investigation and hearing with lundy involved?
I too am surprised at how low the offers of compensation appear to be. One of the unexpected effects of the delay in dealing with this matter, is that in the last few years an avalanche of enlightening research has emerged about the long term effects of early life stresses. For example this key article from mainly Harvard University is available for free on the internet. (Search pubmed if necessary)
Effects of Early Life Stress on Cognitive and Affective Function:
An Integrated Review of Human Literature Psychopharmacology (Berl). 2011 March ; 214(1): 55–70. doi:10.1007/s00213-010-2009-2.
The title is slightly misleading in that the "literature" referred to is the scientific literature.
Furthermore, but most importantly, some counter-intuitive, but seemingly very effective, therapies are emerging based on the timing of the recall of emotionally-charged memories.
Putting it all together their claims should be based on the uncalled for trauma they received as children, the neurobiological and consequent psychological and behavioural effects of the trauma they have suffered for many years, the likelihood that they will continue to suffer, and the cost of now available and almost certainly future available therapies.
The UK law profession is hopelessly backward-looking, and full of scientific ignoramuses. The victims' lawyers should be persuaded to look at the present and beyond.
"In a perfect world, compensation ought to be paid first by those who committed the abuse in the first place, and then by the complacent (and in some cases complicit) civil servants who allowed the abuse to occur through their failure to protect victims."
We're not in a perfect world, but that seems a perfectly reasonable idea, which surely everyone (apart from those guilty ones) would support?
Stuart.
Do you know if the two main, Mainland Lawyers representing the survivers, (Mr Collins and the Irish Lawyer) are happy with The SOJ offer?
Or are they prepared/ing to look at the bigger picture?
Eg They were prepared to take it to the UK Courts. After now seeing the SOJ insulting offer are they prepared to retake to London?
Stuart, correct me if I'm wrong, but the establishment haven't enforced any of their huge legal debts against you, have they? Quite wise of them, as all those bills are from the government, because of your battles to resist their oppression against you. Wouldn't look good, not at all. So you're not bankrupt, so you could run for election.
Now, how about the forthcoming by-elections in, oh, six months or so, in St. Helier No. 1 district and St. Helier No. 2 district? It's hard to see the relevant victors in court today being as restrained as the the government when it comes to collecting their spoils.
I for one ask you to go for it. Don't feel sorry for the fools. They've had the last couple of terms and they've been worse than useless. Isn't her father friends with nurse M? And didn't baldy have the chance as a member of the social services scrutiny panel to investigate the child abuse issues 3 years ago?
Come along Stuart and grow the ruthless streak needed for real political success. You should be helping to bury the dagger into the Pitmans. After all, they did with you, several times over. And it wouldn't even be selfish of you, everyone knows thick and useless they are. The establishment would rather ten Pitmans in than States than you. Which is why it wouldn't be surprising if they didn't go ahead and bankrupt them.
Every successful establishment needs morons. especially on the other side.
Urquhart
I have important issues to focus on.
I'm not getting drawn into some ridiculous diversionary war.
I'll leave others to do that.
As for e-entering electoral politics - I'd sooner try and solo Cerro Torre.
In winter.
Stuart
Why did you even publish the comment at 22.53? The Jersey Blogs are better than that rubbish.
Secret report into Hospital safety released next week?
Thursday 5th April 2012, 2:43PM BST.
The report will be published next week
A REPORT claiming that patient safety standards at the Hospital are years behind those in the UK could be released next week.
No decision on whether to publish the Aitkenhead report will be made until Attorney General Tim Le Cocq is back from holiday.
The existence of the report was revealed during the inquest into the death of 75-year-old Joseph Vasse this week. Mr Vasse died a week after an operation performed by a surgeon who had been concealing from his colleagues the fact that he had cataracts
The Attorney General commissioned the Aitkenhead report after deciding not to prosecute the surgeon – Narendra Pal – in relation to Mr Vasse’s death
The Attorney General commissioned the Aitkenhead report after deciding not to prosecute the surgeon – Narendra Pal – in relation to Mr Vasse’s death
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A reader says:
"Do you know if the two main, Mainland Lawyers representing the survivers, (Mr Collins and the Irish Lawyer) are happy with The SOJ offer?
Or are they prepared/ing to look at the bigger picture?"
From what different survivors have said to me, the view from the lawyers is that the compensation scheme offered by the States is a good deal - and the survivors should accept it.
What the survivors choose to do will be a matter for their individual choice; only they can decide.
I'm not a lawyer - so I don't pretend to offer legal advice.
But just based upon my general understanding of things - my assessment of the deal on offer is that it's appalling and hopeless.
And that if they were determined enough - and co-operated and worked together - the survivors could get a lot more.
There are different bands - and two or three of the very worst cases might get up to £60,000 under the recently announced scheme.
The great majority of survivors won't get anything approaching that sum.
Most will get less than £10,000.
All I can say is what I would do - if I were one of the survivors.
My personal choice would be to reject the offer - without hesitation.
I would sooner take the risks - and fight for the truth and justice and some credible sum, than settle for peanuts - whilst culpable civil servants who participated in the cover-ups - people like Marnie Baudains and Mike Pollard and Bill Ogley - get huge pay-offs and gold-plated pensions.
And lets face it - the money should be coming from the insurance companies anyway.
Oh, unless, of course, the conduct of the States of Jersey has been so outrageously and appallingly culpable - so deliberately and recklessly malfeasent - to have enabled the insurance companies to wash their hands of any and all liability, on the grounds of breach of contract by the States?
A most interesting question.
Perhaps one of the gangsters and halfwit...err....sorry, - your esteemed elected representatives, might ask the question?
Stuart
Didn't bother to read the garbage, obviously, the headline was absurd enough, but I see from the front of today's copy of The Rag that they are now "champions of free speech".
Right. So are we to now look forward to them printing all of the different evidence they've been given over the years, about things like child abuse? Didn't you give them a load of documents 3 or 4 years ago, and they didn't print any of it?
And weren't their lots and lots of really important public interest issues that you spoke of in your various court cases, which they just didn't report, even though they could have done so without a legal worry in the world, given that what's said in court is protected for free publication?
And if The Rag now values the public interest importance of "free speech", are they going to bite the uncomfortable bullet, and publish the disciplinary interim practice restrictions against a Jersey hospital consultant? I mean, its just a bit more important than a cartoon, isn't it?
And the Jersey Evening Post are now, presumably, going to start asking questions about the very strange absence of the transcript of your live evidence, when you appeared as a witness before the scrutiny panel and spoke of how the BDO report had been spun, and the power of the local media? I mean, its strange that every other witness has their transcript published on the panel's website, but yours is not.
Surely we can looked to a campaign now, from "champions of free speech" the Jersey Evening Post, to have that mysteriously missing transcript published?
"Surely we can looked to a campaign now, from "champions of free speech" the Jersey Evening Post, to have that mysteriously missing transcript published?"
Yes. Good luck with that.
But nice sense of humour.
Very nice.
And as for that transcript - yes, a most curious omission, is it not?
But I wouldn't worry; oh, I'm pretty sure it will emerge.
Sooner or later.
Stuart
Stuart
I have been unable to relocate the recent interview, I believe on BBC, with a representative of one of the law firms, saying that "All of their clients were prepared to accept the settlement offer."
Can anyone else recall or link to that statement, specifically?
It is staggering to think the pitiful sums any law firm knowing the level of abuse involved considers it acceptable, even if some of the survivors feel too emotionally exhausted and hopeless to continue the struggle on to court.
Beyond the meager financial payout, this settlement offers survivors no particular forum for making a satisfactory difference to anyone. It does nothing to remove from position anyone who was guilty of abuse or actively complicit in allowing it to continue.
Will the survivors who settle now feel all the more crushed when this offer is used as the final excuse to "move on" and weaken the promise for a real COE?
Surely the only catharsis for such extreme tragedy must come from a complete and formal judicial acknowledgement of all that occurred at the hands of institutional care. Not only is the settlement too paltry to change the lives of most survivors, but it may be used by some to demean their suffering further.
However, as discussed above, should the survivors band together and garner the group support of a few like yourself, Lenny Harper, and Graham Power, there is every chance they can eventually reach a just milestone.
Chelloise
Lets remember this! And in Frank's words `who is going to bring FRANK to justice??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=lz_qz5n4GLw&feature=endscreen
http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/01/jep-editorial.html
A look at a previous posting on the bastion of free speech. The JEP has let done the victims of abuse for decades and never gave them a voice. Not even when the truth was out. They are just as guilty as the abusers. The ones who did nothing when they could have done something are the worse.
rs
Stuart.
Its sad to see the way that Trevor and Shona Pitman played into the hands of the hands they should of known better, not to play into.
The Rag gave themselves much pleasure in putting the frightned looking Pitmans on the front page of their sheeple/blinkered, only local news(?) paper.
They are two, nice, honest, intellegent, people, who will hopefully learn by their mistakes....
And at last believe in you!?
It is not 'me' who anyone needs to 'believe in'; on the contrary - I don't advocate 'belief' - and I most certainly don't recommend any kind of reliance upon a fallible human being like me.
People just need to get real.
Start thinking.
Of the various truisms I publish on this blog, there are two that bear repeating - over & over again:
'You couldn't make it up.'
And -
'The government you deserve.'
Of those two - it's the latter everyone needs to contemplate.
Stuart.
A HEARTY EPIC!!!
Good luck to all the survivors who are going for compensation. All power to anon who is going for a private prosecution.
I am sure that for some of them (like me) the greatest compensation would to see their abuser(s)brought to justice. I have not given up against all odds.
Also what happened to the comment section on the last posting? Only the first 200 were visible so I don't know what happened to the later comments.
Lorna
Stuart, I suspect most of the people who visit this blog, and certainly most of those who comment, DON'T get the government we deserve.
Democracy in Jersey is merely illusory, and even the illusion is paper-thin.
As we have seen time and time again, the real power in this island is vested in a small cabal of crown officers, senior civil servants and a few "establishment" politicians.
None of us get a say in crown officer or civil service appointments.
In reality, there is no real representative democracy even in elections to the States.
For starters, each parish, regardless of population, has a Constable and at least one deputy. This gives inordinate power to the tiny number of voters in the rural parishes where candidates generally need to be to the right of Atilla the Hun before they have a look-in.
Then there's the self-proclaimed champion of free speech, the JEP. I hardly need tell you that this poor substitute for Andrex isn't exactly a beacon of impartiality. It's no exageration to say that the JEP runs the election campaigns for establishment politicians while simultaneously rubbishing candidates who pose a threat to the status quo.
Then, of course, we have no control over what happens to States members once they have been elected. Without party politics, pre-election mandates are dust in the wind. Time and again we have seen politicians make cheap promises to get elected, and then vote the opposite way in the Chamber.
And, of course, given the lack of freedom of information in Jersey, we rarely get to hear about the little back-room deals or threats that allow certain politicians to be controlled and vote "the right way".
Finally - and it pains me to say this - a large section of "middle Jersey" is simply apathetic about any issue that doesn't affect them in the wallet. Partly the JEP is to blame: it dilligently hides the truth from readers about just how corrupt and incompetent is our government, and paints anybody who attempts to reveal the truth as a dangerous subversive who wants to damage Jersey plc. This is why the like of Sir Pip get elected - people are conned into thinking he is a safe pair of hands.
So no, I don't get the government I deserve.
'publish the disciplinary interim practice restrictions against a Jersey hospital consultant'
This is a matter of public record.
Anyone with concerns can check the GMC website www.gmc-uk.org & search for doctors registration status on GMC number 3166767
Anonymous said...
The Attorney General commissioned the Aitkenhead report after deciding not to prosecute the surgeon – Narendra Pal – in relation to Mr Vasse’s death
???????????????????????????
Shows the dangers of getting your information from the JEP. Contrary to the carefully legally-vetted impression deliberately created by the Rag, the reason there was no criminal prosecution was simply that there was no evidence that would stand up in court to say that Mr Pal's ability to operate had been impaired by his cataracts in any way, or that the outcome of Mr Vasse's operation could be attributed to poor eyesight.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CDsQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fuk-politics-17609573&ei=nc9-T9OgKILY8QPt1sG8Bg&usg=AFQjCNFwWpw44WbSobEhfEWaVDLe_2Oagw&sig2=4Qgt3hG26i4GXycEznaioQ
I still strongly believe Ken Clarke is one of the good guys, but I disagree totally about him wanting to cover up any more of the mess.
I think they are preparing to prosecute many MI5 agents, but they want to do it behind closed doors. That is why they are struggling to bring in this new legeslation.
The day after the JEP won such a resounding 'Victory for Free Speech'.
It might be worth revisting the Adam Curtis 'Documentary', We are Richard Nixon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxV3_bG1EHA
Regretfully, for all of the 'you get the government you deserve' aphorisms , the reality is FAR more complex ....
People generally get the government they insist on, but first, the majority must be convinced they want and need a functional democracy with strong checks and balances. What the majority firmly demand, the majority will get. Not enough in Jersey are convinced of the importance of this, and prefer to have their smiling ruler tell them all is well.
A reader says:
"Come off it Stuart it was a UK judge. How much more can you carry on with this stupid hypothesis?"
And?
The presence of a UK judge is supposed to be a guaranty of neutrality?
How are English judges vetted and invited to join the Jersey courts?
Who does that selection and recruiting?
People like Phil Bailhache, Michael Birt and Bill Bailhache - that's who.
Who chooses which judge will actually sit and hear specific cases?
Currently, that will be Mick Birt or Bill Bailhache.
All former Attorney Generals, Deputy Bailiffs and Bailiffs are politically and personally conflicted.
Thus any involvement they have in the judicial recruiting and selection process in such cases is akin to a party choosing their own judge.
It's incompatible with Article 6 of the ECHR.
In the course of trying to resist the political repression against me, at different stages I appeared in Jersey courts before three different UK judges, who each said things that were manifestly absurd - made rulings that were simply extraordinary.
When I was appealing the obviously absurd ruling that I couldn't judicially review the vires of the action of the Attorney General, Michale Beloff actually said that "there was no point in granting discovery in respect of any evidence held by the office of Attorney General relevant to me, because, obviously, there wouldn't be any such evidence".
Hello?
How was he supposed to know that?
Possessed of second-sight is he?
Some form of ESP that enabled him to know that amongst all those records and files held by that department - there would be none concerning me?
Even though the Attorney General had spent the previous two years focused upon an all-out campaign to politically destroy me?
Of course Beloff's assertion was manifest and irrational nonsense - obviously so, even at the time.
And - sure enough - since then, examples of just such evidence has emerged - thus proving the Beloff claim was garbage.
And that's without even getting on to the even more laughable decisions of Pitchers.
But there's a bigger problem yet.
The decisions of the Royal Court are made by the judge and two Jurats; the Jurats are lay-people - basically, a kind of permanent jurors.
The Jurats are 'finders of fact' - and the judge determines the law.
In their discussions - behind closed doors - the Jurats will be speculating about what interpretations to make of which evidence - and the judge will be "advising" them as to what legal considerations apply - and thus which evidence is relevant, less relevant - or not relevant; the judge will be giving the Jurats legal direction - just as a judge in a jury trial gives a summing up and direction to a jury.
But - of course - there is a crucial difference.
In a jury trial, the directions and guidance by the judge, are given in open court - so council for both sides can see and hear what was said - and thus judge whether it was fair, and competent - or not.
And if it wasn't fair and correct - and the jury then get it wrong and return the wrong verdict - the guidance given by the judge often becomes a central ground of appeal.
In the Jersey system, the judge gives such legal guidance, direction and advice, to the Jurats - but does so in secret - in a closed conclave - without the affected parties being able to ever know whether the guidance given by the judge was fair or competent.
Secret "justice" - vital processes - taking place behind closed doors.
Processes that can be crucial to the parties - but which cannot be seen - or challenged.
It's simply not a lawful procedure; it's not compliant with Article 6.
And the judges are always selected and assigned to cases by the most politicised and directly conflicted people possible in these cases - the Bailiff or Deputy Bailiff.
Jersey's entire judicial system is a failed and dysfunctional enterprise.
It is the emperor's new clothes.
Stuart
http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/04/operation-end-game-17-operation-blast.html
You just couldn't make it up
rs
So all judges are corrupt according to you who runs a blog libelling people all the time yet never repeats his claims outside his laptop. No wonder Frank Walker always said you were a stupid boy.
"Stupid", eh?
"Never repeats claims outside his laptop", eh?
Well, forgive me - it's the density, you see - but I don't quite grasp how publishing things via a laptop is supposed to give me some kind of protection?
I guess my great failing was - I was just too thick to mix it with the Jersey mafia.
I mean, those towering intellects - the Terry Le Mains, the Jimmy Perchards, the Phil Ozoufs, the Ben Shentons.
I was always trying to play out of my league.
Stuart
Anonymous said at 12.15, so all judges are corrupt according to you who runs a blog libelling people all the time etc,,answer,if someone is libelled and feel agreived they can take the accuser to court and I know dam well if I had been accused of some of the things Stuart says and was inocent I would have no hesitation in taking him to court and shut him up once and for all,however not one person he has accused in this manner has made a stand to clear his or her name,therefore it stands to reason that what he says is the truth end of.
Stuart
Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience every time!
"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped."
Well Stuart, in case your readers didn't notice the date, last Friday, 6th April, was the 3rd anniversary of the illegal police raid carried out against you. Did you get your legal papers served on them?
And if you did, can we assume you will be publishing them in due course?
You would win, of course, in any law-abiding society. But This Is Jersey.
What do you plan to do to try and avoid the inevitable strike-out judgment by one of Mr. Birt or Mr Bailhache's appointed judges?
"This Is Jersey".
How very drole.
Yes - two actions filed - against the Police - and against the Attorney General.
Have you read them?
Yes - of course I would win - if Jersey enjoyed the proper rule of law.
Unfortunately, I have about as much chance of winning the legal actions in Jersey as I would have of beating Lucian Bute in a fist-fight.
And the absence of functioning justice in Jersey, of course, brings the legal obligations of the Secretary of State more into the equation.
Stuart
Off subject apologies. Like others I boycott David Warrs coffee empire.
Is there somebody else who sells fresh ground coffee in jersey or is it internet.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/jersey/content/articles/2009/06/11/williambailhache_depbaliff_feature.shtml
"I think the important thing with all people, whether you are in court or in the States, is to try and approach things objectively, courteously and fairly. If you take that approach, it will be respected," Mr Bailhache concluded.
"So be it."
Hysterical.
Couldn't make it up.
Stuart
http://www.angloarabia.com/bribery/index.html
"But after the horrific events of 11 September, Qatar was an increasingly important strategic ally for Britain and the US. The state was a moderating influence among Islamic countries and the US, worried about the stability of its military bases in Saudi Arabia, was reported to be preparing to move its Gulf HQ to Qatar.
Diplomatic pressure to heal Qatari relations was becoming intense. Then, in a startling turn of events, Jersey's attorney-general announced last Friday he was dropping the investigation.
On the surface it appeared that the Jersey authorities capitulated. But like the rest of this story the true facts lie buried beneath the surface.
While Sheik Hamad continued to protest his innocence, he agreed to pay £6m to the Jersey government to repair any 'damage perceived to have been sustained in the events that have happened'. This was very close to the £7m figure which the Jersey authorities were trying to confiscate. Jersey's attorney-general said continuing action against Sheik Hamad was not 'in the public interest'. There was also the major problem that the Foreign Minister would be protected by diplomatic immunity."
Of course, the £6 million can be accounted for, Bill?
"I think the important thing with all people, whether you are in court or in the States, is to try and approach things objectively, courteously and fairly. If you take that approach, it will be respected," Mr Bailhache concluded.
Tell it to those involved in the the removal of a Police Chief during an ongoing child abuse investigation in Jersey.
Elitism leads to tyranny - the blog of the protestor who spoiled the toff's boat race.
Any comments?
http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/04/operation-end-game-17-operation-blast_09.html
RS
Stuart.
"WHO WILL SAVE US?"
The toffs boat race
Yes I have a comment , I have a couple of friends that went to Oxford .
Why , Why do you categorise people ?
In the box , out of the box.
Mr Syvret
Could you please confirm that in the case of the Pitmans Libel case it was the Jurats who made the judgement guided by the commissioner. I refused to believe it when told today.
Stuart, could I direct your readers to u-tube, Jersey Islands of secrets,in particular part 3.it makes my blood boil.
I do not publish comments that contain derogatory remarks concerning survivors.
Stuart
A reader says:
"Mr Syvret
Could you please confirm that in the case of the Pitmans Libel case it was the Jurats who made the judgement guided by the commissioner. I refused to believe it when told today."
Yes - that is correct.
The relevant legislation that governs the conduct of the Jersey court is the Royal Court Rules.
That law stipulates that cases such as this are determined by a judge, sitting with two Jurats.
The theory is the judge only determines questions of law.
The Jurats determine the questions of evidence; 'finders of fact', as they are known.
So in the Pitmans' case - the judge will have decided, and ruled as to what the law of defamation was - and which interpretations of that law applied in this case.
And the Jurats will then have decided - within that legal "guidance" - what the evidential and relevant facts were - and what interpretation to be placed upon those "facts".
So - in essences, yes, the Jurats - friends and colleagues of people like the Bailhache Brothers and Michael Birt - will have decided the case against the Pitmans.
The current Jersey judicial legislation is not human rights compliant.
It is simply not structurally capable of delivering an Article 6 compliant hearing.
Stuart
"Mr Syvret
Could you please confirm that in the case of the Pitmans Libel case it was the Jurats who made the judgement guided by the commissioner. I refused to believe it when told today."
Yes - that is correct.
They never stood a chance like your good self
The closeness of the politico and the media has been highlighted in the UK by the Guido Fawkes blog Here
A quote from this article:
"Britain has been governed for decades by an interlocking politico-media elite analogous to Italy’s tangentopoli…"
"Nice" to know that we are not alone ..
The Beano is not the Rag
Stuart, following some comments here that obviously hit the target, I see those 'Champions Of Free Speech' The Rag has reported the following on its web site,
'A HOSPITAL doctor has been banned from examining female patients alone after being placed under investigation by the General Medical Council.
The doctor was recently subjected to the strict conditions by the GMC, which monitors the standards of medical professionals in Britain, following an allegation by a female Islander.
The conditions will stay in place until September next year or until the GMC decides whether the medic should face a ‘fitness to practise’ hearing.
However, a Health department spokeswoman confirmed that the Hospital’s own internal investigation had cleared the doctor of any wrongdoing.'
Can any who's read the JEP tell us if the print version goes further? Does it name the doctor?
And, I must say, although you shouldn't laugh, is even The Rag being ironic and mocking when they say 'the Hospital’s own internal investigation had cleared the doctor of any wrongdoing.'
What, would be like the 'internal investigation' into the accidental death of a patient that was led by the Medical Director who was the anaesthetists with responsibility for the patient when she died?
What's that phrase you use, 'your life in their hands'?
I can't answer you question about whether The Rag story has published more details in the print version, as I very rarely ever bother reading it.
I mean - who but a complete fool spends money - in order to be propagandised?
Personally, I would be very surprised indeed if there was any irony intended in that JEP paragraph concerning the hospital statement. Even though they know very well just how nakedly illegal was the cover-up concerning the accidental death of the patient - so they know what H & SS are capable of in terms of lies and cover-ups.
It was quite curious - just how the JEP - for once - actually did some good, investigative journalism in that case - and nailed the appalling cover-up and the lies - but then the JEP embarked upon a deafening silence on the subject, from that day to this.
I wonder what "bargain" could have whipped the Guiton Group into shape on that occasion?
Indeed - so extraordinarily rare - possibly unique, even - in the entire history of the JEP was that little burst of 'investigative journalism' - one can't help but wonder if the paper - and those who control it - didn't need a story - upon which to flex its muscles - just once - so as to put a "frightener" upon certain public authorities?
The Attorney General, perhaps?
If so, it obviously worked.
Well - as much as those old, obsolete mercantile transactions concerning 'knowledge' could ever be said to "work" - in the Internet age.
Stuart
The Attorney General, perhaps?
He with better secret files than were held at police hq,maybe even on the rag rapist!
Perhaps the time has come, in a true spirit of Private Eye satire and irony , and linked to the undoubted naming of the rag rapist in you court papers, and further linked to its association in journalistic terms to parts of the Crown Officers sensitive areas. To rename, in investigative blog journals at least, that paper previously known as 'The Jersey Evening Post' as
.....The Organ....
Just think of the Blog headlines
'The Organgrinders Monkey' (Editorial writers)
etc perhaps your readers might like to start an informal competition, the first prize being NOT to win a years subscription to 'The Organ'.
Mah mate Helier and I were just locking up the gates of Gory Castle when we got talking.
He wondered if it is normal practice for a Medical Director to also undertake the anaesthetists role during an operation?
I replied that I didn't know, but we both agreed that the events were certainly tragic.
The Beano is not the Rag
It is most certainly usula for a practicing clinician to also be the Medical Director.
Nothing unusual in that.
There is, however, something very, very "unusual" in any clinician - Medical Director or not - being placed in charge of an internal investigation into a serious critical incident - in which the clinician themselves was a key actor; perhaps even THE key actor - as the patient died when directly under their care.
Stuart
Hi,
I posted this on Rico's blog earllier:
Please excuse this escapade into JEP toothfairyland
What was the paper copy headline, VICTORY FOR FREE SPEECH !!!
On the thread:
http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/2012/04/04/pitmans-lose-libel-case-against-jep/
Starting at 8:05 this morning I have made 3 attempts to post the following:
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NAME/TITLE: Soiled Balletpapers
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"Get at em" @88 -What is the significance of the choice of name - Is that playground talk or is it (troll) feeding time at the zoo ?
Perhaps Cyber bullying is a big issue lurking under the soil of our fair isle.
I have no recollection of the cartoon but I suspect that the legal challenge may have had less to do with oversensitivity and more to do with long running acrimony with the JEP which is very unsympathetic to the Pitmans and is largely controlled by their political opponents and associates.
Also, a political cartoon by the large estate agent Broadlands - This is Jersey but it is unusual to see such overt political involvement by business; usually it is behind closed doors or at the golf club or temple bar.
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2 of my posting attempts have failed - wish me luck for #3 which was at 9:24 pm
To mis-quote Animal Farm: SOME SPEECH IS MORE FREELY REPORTED THAN OTHERS
My name "Soiled Balletpapers" is chosen to ridicule the hijack of the Electoral Commission and has not been deemed inappropriate by even the JEP CENSORS
Am I upset? - NO, I am little annoyed but totally delighted by their continued CENSORSHIP because the more they do it the shorter their power and money loving, child abuse apologist organisation will last.
Wake up Jersey - You may have voted but you did not choose the election winners or the government - the JEP did in 2011 - never again !
Did you vote for Bailache? - will you vote for him again ?
JEP - "the TOXIC heart or the Island"
It costs you more than the 50p cover price - Far far more !
MEETING THE BOSS
"Did you vote for Bailache? - will you vote for him again ?".
How timely ! The 'Organ' today is putting forward 'the chosen one's'views on independence from being a 'satellite of the UK' (Boo..hiss!). So we may never get a chance to vote for 'The Emperor' again, it won't be needed.
I can't resist some prog rock lyrics/poetry ,(Peter Hammill VdG) please indulge me;
'Imperceptible the change as our votes become mere gestures
and our lords and masters determine to cast us
in the roles of serfs and slaves
in the new empire's name.
Yes and every bloody emperor claims that freedom is his cause
as he buffs up on his common touch as a get-out clause.
Unto nations nations speak in the language of the gutter;
trading primetime insults the imperial impulse
extends across the screen.
Truth's been beaten to its knees; the lies embed ad infinitum
till their repetition becomes a dictum
we're traitors to disbelieve.
With what impotence we grieve for the democratic process
as our glorious leaders conspire to feed us
the last dregs of imperious disdain
in the new empire's name.
Yes and every bloody emperor's got his hands up history's skirt
as he poses for posterity over the fresh-dug dirt.
Yes and every bloody emperor with his sickly rictus grin
talks his way out of nearly anything but the lie within
because every bloody emperor thinks his right to rule divine
so he'll go spinning and spinning and spinning into his own decline.'
I just posted this at:
http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/2012/04/12/lets-stand-up-for-ourselves/#comment-144275
Youlose Hewins !
April 12, 2012 at 3:17 pm
I feel another memorable liberation day speech coming on.
How did it go again? :- Our Dear Channel Islands are to be fiefed today……
After his recent success as “Foreign Minister” with LVCR and fulfilment jobs, the reciprocal health agreement, Jersey passports, Stamp duty concession……..
It suited his purpose to ‘win’ on all these so the least we can do is crown the new King.
Stuart
Are we wrong to presume the FACAWS are behind the state media push for Jersey independence? It couldn't be just driven by P.B. could it?
D.
Heard a storey today about the granite being supplied for the town park alledgely it is being supplied from a quarry in france owned by a jersey resident aparently they were the lowest tender and were accepted,but again alledgly it has come to light that carridge was not accounted for and therefore its going to cost much more than if it had been bought locally,has anyone any further information?
I visited the same website to see your comment and left one of my own. Doubt if it will get past the moderators though.ps Brummie is what we Birmingham folk sometimes call ourselves, just in case anyone hasnt heard the word before.
Zoompad
April 12, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Perhaps Phillip could make up another law as he goes along (like in the YouTube video he had taken down a bit too late because I had already copied it heh heh heh)declaring himself the King of Jersey, and put up big signs all over the beach prohibiting UK politicians from his island?
If he did that it would be a nice gesture if he returned the human remains of any Brummie children that were killed at Haut de la Garenne, plus the paperwork.
Dear (EX) Senator Syvret,
Well so it comes to pass, I posted a very detailed mail almost two years ago (and copied it again not so long ago) with regard to the Coup d'etat that would take place if P.B were to be voted in, and so it comes to pass. Anyone with half a brain can see all the 'little' games taking place to get us 'plebs' "on side"...ohhh the nasty U.K government, take our passports, take our low value postings, etc etc. now we have P.B giving us the "perhaps we should think about our relationship with the U.K. This will soon morph into we MUST become independant, don't worry that Jersey Law will be your one and ONLY law and the fact that the Judge who found you guilty will be the ONLY one you can apppeal too!!....yup NO privy council, NO E.U in fact you will be well and truly up the creek. What is happening here is that 800 years of 'power' in the hands of a few will be set into concrete for you and your childrens children to come. The Government you truly deserve, Jersey has to be the most complaisant population on earth.
MAD-DOG!!!
Ref the comment abut the granite used in the Town Park.
I haven't heard that particular rumour. My understanding is that the granite - or at least some of it - was imported from China. No doubt fine granite - but an absurd thing to do when this island is granite.
But, of course, who knows what the truth is - given this is The Jersey Way of which we speak.
Stuart
A very useful public meeting tonight - at which power, political activism, and blogging was discussed.
It was a great opportunity for Jon Haworth - Jersey's toxic, multi-avatar troll - cyber-stalker - internet bully - and supporter of child-abuse cover-ups - to come along and debate, face-to-face, with a few of the people he abuses behind his cloak of anonymity.
Predictably - he didn't show.
The spineless little maggot.
Stuart
Re the granite
It would not surprise me given a previous tale I had heard a few years back.
The story goes that the stone used to pave King and Queen Streets was supplied by an Italian company.
The company was going bust and was up for sale at a knock down price. A particular States member, who shall remain nameless, bought the said Italian company for peanuts - coincidently, just before the company was awarded the contract to supply the stone.
Frankly speaking, a healthy profit was made by the new owner and the company was sold on for even more profit.
Stuart.
Democracy Terrorists RE-POST
maggots don't have spines dickhead.
Yep - maggots are invertebrates; hell Jon - you got something right for once!
Must be a record.
Stuart
A notice to readers:
In recent months this blog has been pretty quite.
From next week, expect some fresh postings.
Those who follow political blogs may have read the expose by Guido Fawkes of the "Blue Book section of the Operation Motorman" files.
The Guido Fawkes blog argues that the evidence in question - and more like it - is being suppressed by the Leveson inquiry and the British establishment in general - because the implications of really digging into, and exposing, what has been many years of allegedly criminal activity by all sections of the press, would be to disrupt a cosy, unwritten 'pact' amongst the powerful; namely the UK media, politicians and judiciary.
An interesting theory.
And far from implausible.
The corruptions of power that can happen - and be tolerated and even covered-up - in Britain - are quiet startling when you get to see them first-hand.
We've already seen a great deal of evidence for such corruption involving all aspects of power in Jersey.
Evidence that has been sought out and published, not by the mainstream media in the island, but by bloggers.
And we going to see more such evidence.
If you read the relevant Guido Fawkes posting, you will see quite number of readers advise him "not to go for any long walks on his own".
I've been given similar advice - in my case by a very experienced police officer.
Stuart
An interesting theory. You have just got to be joking Stuart! You mean you have only just realised that?
If ctv put a quarter of the amount of time into reporting real news instead of their over inflated and hysterical adverts they might just come close to being a creditworthy news outlet.
maggots don't have spines dickhead.
No Stuart he's wrong , a number of Dipteran 'maggots' have chaete that are synonymous with spines.They also have Acantha for propulsion in runny material (often festering)that, as your Greek knowledge would tell you translates as ...yep you guessed it..spines!!!
The cephalitic abbreviated Richard didn't know that himself. I'm guessing it's 'University of Life' that you are a successful alumnus as opposed to other alumni. ;)
TRUST JERSEY!!!
Just a casual observation.The Declaration of Interest of States members is now on line on the States Assembley website.Strangely there is no Declaration link for Philip Ozouf.How very strange.It must just be an admin error surely.
Prisons chief admits failings in service over sexual abuse
A true horror story: The abuse of teenage boys in a detention centre
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/video/2012/apr/13/ngaire-woods-democracy-law-video
S.O.
The sad decline of Jersey's Tourism industry and attractions - because it's all Finance, Finance, Finance.
'Just a casual observation.The Declaration of Interest of States members is now on line on the States Assembley website.Strangely there is no Declaration link for Philip Ozouf.How very strange.It must just be an admin error surely.'
How VERY interesting , I hope questions will be asked !!!
Lots of NONES in others though .An example being that NONE includes £500K from a garden sale doesn't it.
And what about your house that you inherited and is tucked away in a trust.
Won't take to much to find out where it is.
I assume that comment is directed at me; it's hard to tell quite what the deranged Jon Haworth means most of the time.
I have inherited zero property.
I stand to inherit zero property.
I stand to inherit nothing.
I don't own any property.
I don't own any shares in any property.
I don't own any shares.
I am not, nor ever have been, the beneficiary of any trust, or trust-fund.
I know - Jersey oligarchs just find it impossible - simply impossible - to get their heads around the fact that a person who is penniless and assetless - would choose to do the right thing - rather then put their own financial gain first.
It's a kind of "culture-shock" to them; it just "does not compute".
This place is so decadent.
Stuart
Don't let Supertroll upset you Stuart, he's just doing his daily rounds of the anti child abuse blogs.
Hi,
I gather that The Declaration of Interest of States Members is now available online at:
http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/Pages/default.aspx
Perhaps I am being blond but I have not found it yet. Can someone please provide a link to take us straight there.
Or a search term to put in the above to find it quick?
Thanks.
Stuart,
Can you please give us a brief reminder of why the register is inadequate?
I recall you pointing out that it was wording in basic ownership terms rather than a "catch-all" beneficial interest wording so members can just move everything into a trust or similar and carry on as before -squeaky, but not clean.
Also Stuart, please remind us - you said that 'Sir' Philip Bailhache was instrumental in the ineffective wording or obstructive of your efforts to word it so that it would be fit for purpose?
Did I get that about right ? I read it quite a while ago.
Thanks,
Hedinda x.
I have just seen:
http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/2012/04/14/politicians-to-be-questioned-over-states%e2%80%99-546000-pay-off/
I Have just submitted the following comment:-
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Cassandra Moment April 14, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Hi Tracey,
If only we had polished our Chrystal Balls!
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October 11, 2010 at 11:21 am
We have the fall guy:
ANDREW LEWIS
We have the reserve fall guys:
WARCUP (now he’s cheap{ish})
OGLEY (not cheap)
Now Ogley will get a real good golden handshake – dig deep everyone – YOUR PAYING (again).
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R.Boy x.
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[One of the 4 monkeys]
I wonder if the JEP will publish it or CENSOR it?
They have censored all previous attempts to reference this PREDICTION.
This time they censor at their peril because the JEP has more Achilles' heels than a centipede with foot rot
;-)
& It is archived BTW.
:-D
Isn't inside information great !
You are not a whistleblower if someone else did it first -If you had the chance to do the right thing but chose not to then you are you are just another concealer and your shame will feed on your insides as the years go by.
Let the floodgates open but protect yourself.
No Gradwell, I don't mean you. LOL
you blow! but not on a whistle as the JEP would have us believe.
i think the comment at 10-46 was refering to ozouf inheriting a property !!!
Jon Howath remains in a league of his own when it comes to sheer stupidity, cowardice and cringe worthy maggotry.
He bombards websites with puerile nonsense, he persistently harangues site owners with mindless and vacuous illiteracy and then pleads pathetically like an infant for help from the authorities when his shameless and mind numbing behaviour is held up for all to see.
And he spectacularly fails to understand that he was the creator of his own destiny.
He truly is a moron of the highest order and a concerted effort should be made by Jersey's most intelligent and dedicated bloggers to banish him from cyberspace by blocking every single comment from his clearly damaged mind.
I found this, but this isn't it
http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/AssemblyQuestions/2012/Constable%20of%20St%20John%20to%20PPC%20re%20Declaration%20of%20Members%20interests.pdf#search=members interests
MEETING THE BOSS Part 2
Stuart, I think you had better read this.
http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/04/operation-end-game-17-operation-blast_14.html
Another letter from David Warcup and even more corrupt actions
rs
Someone asked where the declarations of interest were on the States website. You need to go to www.statesassembly.gov.je and then Members. Each member's declaration is part of there biographical page, under there adress etc so you need to open each member up individually. And I see that Phillip Ozouf's is now online as well
Use their rules against them.
http://www.blogtv.com/People/voiceforchildren
I will be doing a live blog cast at the above address at 5pm today Sunday the 5th April. This is a trial on our new Blog TV Station.
rs
Stuart.
Team Voice reaches a NEW ERA
RE:
October 11, 2010 at 11:21 am
We have the fall guy:
ANDREW LEWIS
We have the reserve fall guys:
WARCUP (now he’s cheap{ish})
OGLEY (not cheap)
Now Ogley will get a real good golden handshake – dig deep everyone – YOUR PAYING (again).
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That old prediction comment was great to see again. Maybe we should launch a prediction BLOG so we can share the news before it happens. A Jersey Chrystal Ball?
Here's mine: There is NO CHANCE of Jersey, as it is currently structured, ever allowing a complete and accurate C.O.E. on the whole child abuse scandal.
Senator Bailhaiche's solution to the attempts to get to the bottom of Jersey corruption, especially anything related to the cover up of child abuse, will ultimately be the co-ordinated attempt to take Jersey independent.
Here's where I predict P.B.'s support will come from:
The state media, the Jersey Judicial branch, Whitehall, the Feudalist foot stampers in the States, the Jersey Police and the Voluntaries, the Finance sector, the Civil Service, and those who long for the good old days when the elite, through their State Media, owned the information flow, and there were no pesky bloggers.
Elle
p.s. Additional Prediction: They will soon try to marginalize ILM, and even throw him under the bus if they must, but some of these people will probably talk, and that could change the details and rearrange a few medium level players, especially if they aren't satisfied with the negotiated payout for their silence.
It will get expensive.
Elle
Back to the Declaration of Interests,it is indeed very interesting that Bailache's declared company Misty Holdings,an investment holding company was formed just one month before he was elected.This can be found on the Registar of Companies website.
Very handy this internet thing.
What is Misty Holdings? Is it anything to do with MIST?
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mist.ac.bd%2F&ei=OUqLT-CTNYmU8gOIqPTuCQ&usg=AFQjCNHDVKC88xUC0TtMM5gi7j4PcyJdMw&sig2=IzyfgKJbW9vixZtcQxKiJA
To become accredited media what do you have to do?
misty - a little foggy, obscured.
or in laymans terms
taking the pi$$
To become accredited media what do you have to do?
I suspect this is what you have to do
http://www.dogtrainingblogger.com/images/sniffing-butts.jpg
A fancy dress party and sickening waste of money as the establishment enjoy a jolly at our expense.
That Norwegian psycho reminds me of Jon Haworth. Let's face it, all the ingredients are there. Solitary, hate-filled maniac; lives in a Walter Mitty fantasy world; incapable of engaging rationally with society around him; can't respond to evidence with anythings except even more hate filled abuse; believes he is on the "right" side, and being some kind of hero for ordinary people but in reality is in a micro-minority (in Haworth's case, supporting child abusers); has no real friends; spends his life on the Internet; narcissistic; threatens to maim people; regularly given to making various death-threats to those he becomes obsessed with; and obviously barking mad.
It is all there, isn't it? We wouldn't be surprised.
LE MARQUAND LEFT BATTERED & BRUISED :)
"To become accredited media what do you have to do?"
In general terms there's no "accreditation" for media; no process which has to be gone through to achieve a certain status. It's simply a matter of history, acceptance and perception.
There are a number of definitions of "accredited media" used, none of which is wholly satisfactory.
They include:
Media outlets which are governed by an agreed Code of Conduct / Editorial Guidelines;
Media outlets which pay (employ) journalists on a professional basis - the infamous U.S. "Professional Definition."
Media outlets which utilise the services of trained, or qualified journalists ( i.e. people who have successfully completed a recognised course in journalism.)
But, in the end, it really comes down to media organisations which through longevity, size of circulation and reputation cannot safely be ignored by the powers-that-be.
- None of which stops them being discredited when they're shown to be lying cheats, of course!
Stuart, in case your readers may not have heard him, the true nature of Jersey's universally despised and widely known internet pest and trolling thug, Jon Haworth, can be listened to thanks to the audio clip posted on the following blog-page:
Jon Haworth Spooks
OGLEY ROBBERY
Stuart.
Rico will be available for a live chat HERE in 10 minutes time 7:15pm
VFC, sorry - just checked comments so didn't see your comment earlier.
Stuart
HOW TO REPORT CHILD ABUSE PROPERLY
Stuart.
The broadcast went well.
Rico will be available for a live chat this coming Sunday at 6pm at the same place HERE
You are able to interact live so any questions people might have, please come and ask them.
http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/04/operation-end-game-19-operation-blast.html
Guest posting by Bob Hill on Operation Blast
rs
As several readers have said to me in e-mails, all of Jon's recent trolling reminds them of two postings I wrote about him.
The first was "Jason The Maverick" - published on 20th May 2009.
The second was "Jon Haworth" - published on 29th March 2011.
The second of those two posting has a link to another blog-site - on which you can listen to Jon Haworth - foot-soldier of the Jersey oligarchy - deliver one of his psychotic and drunken tirades of abuse and death-threats via an harassing telephone call; a fairly routine occurrence.
Who knows? By all accounts, there might be a few more such recordings of Jon Haworth going on the net soon.
Jon Haworth: the best the Jersey establishment has to offer.
Stuart.
MELCHIOR WATHELET
Melchior H.M.J.F.C. Wathelet (born 6 March 1949) is a Belgian politician and member of the Humanist Democratic Centre. He has degrees in law and in economics (University of LiÚge) and is a Master of Laws (Harvard University). He's also a professor at the Catholic University of Louvain and the Université de LiÚge. From 1995 to 2003 he was a Judge at the European Court of Justice. As Justice Minister he had, according to David Canter, "encouraged the early release of many sex offenders" which included the later murder-convicted Marc Dutroux.[1]
Judge at the European Court of Justice
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEoQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fglobalresearch.ca%2Farticles%2FDOW205A.html&ei=ireOT9bSNdPb8gPby5jACw&usg=AFQjCNFXNqcBwPwstEA409vVCxGqhrMiyA&sig2=y28iG_3-vQnJ3_IBojVPrw
LOBOTOMY FOR HOSPITAL REPORT!
Stuart
Check out the NMC website hearings for 2 May 2012
Significant result in the Guernsey all Deputies elections where the equivalents to Senators and Constables were removed years ago. Coupled with a very high vote this should make even Sen Bailhache miss a breath.
So just what is the difference on this other Island and what should we learn?
Meanwhile SSTAG has been formed in Jersey to resist the slashes and cuts of Sen Ozouf and his team and such measures as 40% rent increases and all the other social unfairnesses being heaped upon the least well off in Jersey.
What does this all say about Jersey's political representation? Deputy Green seems like a moderate sort of chap but how has he been sucked into this madness - see his interview on the new SSTAG blog at
sstagjsy.blogspot.com/
OMG Have you seen what he's done now?
http://www.nmc-uk.org/Hearings/Hearings-and-outcomes/May-2012/Charges-Marol
The link above from Anonymous at 13:38 says the page has been moved or deleted.
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Here's what the link said:
"Allegations: MAROLIA, Andrew 80K1308E
That you, whilst a registered nurse:
1. Incorrectly stated in your Notification of Practice Form dated 12th August 2008 that you had completed 450 hours of practice as a registered nurse in the last 3 years;
2. Your actions at Charge (1) were dishonest;
3. Between approximately December 2006 and January 2007 worked as a registered nurse in Jersey whilst not registered with the Jersey Health Authority.
And, in the light of the above, your fitness to practise is impaired by reason of your misconduct"
Allegations: NURSE M 80K1308E
That you, whilst a registered nurse:
1. Incorrectly stated in your Notification of Practice Form dated 12th August 2008 that you had completed 450 hours of practice as a registered nurse in the last 3 years;
2. Your actions at Charge (1) were dishonest;
3. Between approximately December 2006 and January 2007 worked as a registered nurse in Jersey whilst not registered with the Jersey Health Authority.
And, in the light of the above, your fitness to practise is impaired by reason of your misconduct.
Polo, yes I see that, but it's still there, just click on Hearings at the top of that page, then Hearings and Outcomes,then May 2012 and scroll down a bit to the appropriate name and click on charges
Sorry about that.
Did you ever report him to them Stuart?
@Anonymous 16:58
Thanks. Now they say they are doing maintenance.
I'll check them out again later, just in case I become paranoid :)
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Stuart, you said a while ago you had commenced your law suit against the police and the Jersey Attorney General. As a regular reader of this blog and others,I know enough to know that they can't win through fair means. Everything they did to you (to us, really) was obviously illegal.
Seems to me they can go down one of three paths. 1) have your applications struck out, as usual, but for how much longer can that simple step of preventing any cases being heard in full go on? Jersey already looks incredible. Another such denial of justice would be proof of corruption in itself. 2) Argue the cases in full hearings, then get their judge and Jurats to parrot "judgments" written by others, as usual. But that too would look incredible, really, given they'd have to find against the evidence already public. And even then, their victory would be pyrrhic, as all the evidence would have to be disclosed and argued in open court, and the many obvious culprits called as witnesses and questioned under oath. It's a nightmare. 3) Get out the cheque book and ask you "how much?". Then you just quietly drop everything and enjoy a wealthy life of leisure. But you wouldn't be bought like that, would you?
Or, you could suddenly have an unfortunate "accident". But that too is hardly going to cement the credibility of the Jersey establishment.
What they gonna do?
Like I said as a regular reader of the Jersey blogs, seems to me like the Jersey "Old Guard" have finally gone too far, and got themselves in a real hole this time.
They're breaking all their teeth trying to chew you up.
the link below worked for me.
http://www.nmc-uk.org/Hearings/Hearings-and-outcomes/May-2012/Charges-MaroliaAndrew/
Ref Nurse M, I could not believre
what a retired police officer told me and about the cover up,it is so good the truth will never come out,unless it comes from M.
Stuart,
I and others are aware that the Troll has been making life difficult for a few of the hardworking honest and reliable blog owners, who also happen to care about Jersey and people on this island. Maybe its about time Jon Haworth got the celebrity he wants, by putting a picture of him on line.
Anyone got one to show what a human Troll looks like who gives so much grief to good and kind caring people ?
Anonymous
Yes Stuart, as the comment above.
Please let us know where you are and what your next plan of action is.
Its just that you have gone very quite.
Or is this because you cant say much right now
eg: Getting in the pouncing position!?
"Anyone got one to show what a human Troll looks like who gives so much grief to good and kind caring people ? "
I would like to see what my tormentor looks like as well
Stuart.
AN ABUSE SURVIVOR GUEST POSTING
Compensation they call it? A slap in the face more like. What despicable bad faith.
posted on the rag
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Jean Aubry
April 20, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Home Affairs Minister Ian Le Marquand should be tazed hi,self untill tells the truth about the suspension of Graham Power
Personally, I think capital punishment should be reintroduced for rapists,
1 line from online letter in rag re tasers,amazing how this statement slipped past a certain senior member of the rag.
I do not support capital punishment.
But, yes - an obvious editorial blunder there.
I hope the sub who let that through isn't female, for her sake.
Stuart
Stuart.
You will be doing a live, and interactive, broadcast tomorrow Sunday 22nd at 6pm (BST). Viewers can watch/take part HERE
Stuart.
Sorry it's "Rico" not "you" although you would make for an interesting guest on the show when we are a bit more organised with it!
Just as well they don't hang people for treason anymore eh Stu?
Yes, it is just as well they don't hang people for treason.
After all, as much as I disagree with them, I wouldn't want anyone to be hung - not even Philip and William Bailhache.
Their sustained campaign to undermine and subvert Jersey's traditional relationship to the Crown is, indeed, treason.
Personally, I'm loyally supporting the status quo - and that the authority of the Crown to be re-established in Jersey - as it used to be before Philip Bailhache became a Crown Officer, and the subversion, weakening and corruption of the Crown function in Jersey began to take root and manifest itself from the early 1990s under his influence.
Yes - he and his brother - and a few of their fellow-travelers - are indeed traitors.
But still I would never support capital punishment.
Stuart
Nice one Stuart! I love your ironic response to an earlier comment about traitors and your highlighting the Bailhache traitors. As you know you are only expressing more directly the collective view of the Council of Ministers under Frank Walker. I wonder where the current Council stands on the issue? Perhaps your readers would like to ask the question of individual Council Ministers and States Members in general? There must be a proper discussion of the Constitutional Issues with all the Island. We have far more to lose than to gain from trying to go it alone. I may well do a much longer comment about this soon as I feel so strongly about it.
http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/04/operation-end-game-20-they-suspend.html
THE CORRUPT SUSPENSION OF GRAHAM POWER FOR OPERATION BLAST
RS
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